Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: Cleo on July 26, 2008, 21:07
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I have several varieties of Tomato.
Two outside plants and several in the Green house.
Prolific flowers but only found my first small fruit today.
I think they will come eventually.
Anyone else with the same problem ?
I'm in the Midlands
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mine are like that too, but I started them off a bit late. They'll catch up so long as this nice weather keeps up :D
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I put mine in late too, but the fruits are beginning to form now, so won't be long!
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I put mine in early which is why it is so strange that they are flowering late.
I'm thinking
pollen clumping due to all the rain last month
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I'm the most furthest south of all of all of you and mine are all small and green
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Weird!!!
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I'm up here in deepest darkest Yorkshire.
Not seen the sun for a month until today but I still have a great crop of GREEN TOMATOES....
If they ripen it'll be fantastic otherwise it'll be Chutney Time !! :D
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I have about 10 in the greenhouse but it doesnot get direct sunlight, its a neighbours leanto that I have the use of so happy to have it for bringing stuff on but not sure if the tomatoes will do that well with out direct sunlight?
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I have loads of good sized green ones, I'm hoping that this warm spell will turn things around. Due to illness earlier in the year I was about 4 weeks late in starting them, but they appear to have caught up.
HOWEVER.......
I also grew plants for my mother. Same packet, raised at the same time, grown on together here & then planted out into their respective grennhouses at the same time.
She's got ripe one's. :(
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I have loads of good sized green ones, I'm hoping that this warm spell will turn things around. Due to illness earlier in the year I was about 4 weeks late in starting them, but they appear to have caught up.
HOWEVER.......
I also grew plants for my mother. Same packet, raised at the same time, grown on together here & then planted out into their respective grennhouses at the same time.
She's got ripe one's. :(
:lol: :lol: Sod's...
I haven't any ripe ones in the gh, however, outdoors they have been ripening.
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Bizarre !!!
Seems a strange year for tomatoes all round.
At least I now I'm not alone :-)
Hope we get enough good weather now for them to grow and ripen....
then I can add tomato glut to my mountain of courgettes.
I will be chasing people for chutney recipes
lol
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Well all I have so far is LOADS of flowers and one teeny weeeeeeeeny green tom :( I thought when I came back from holiday I'd have loadsa fruit formed ..... no such luck! Ah well, at least my sis kept them alive while I was away :D
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Hi wighty
I am quite a bit further south than you and mine are also only green, but they are getting bigger (is that good or bad?). As I said on another thread, I fear I planted them too close together (I am a novice gardener), but there has also been a distinct lack of sun the last couple of weeks. September is usually very nice in Austria though, so I am optimistic. One has to be surely??????? :roll:
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I have the same problem with stubborn green tomatoes. We've had a mini heatwave this weekend and one of my toms has turned orange. I'm sure it happened a lot sooner last year and the weather then was wet and horrible.
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All at various stages of small and green - though the plum toms are doing slightly better than the cherry. Is anybody else finding a difference between types?
On a positive note, this year the outdoors cucumbers are romping away!
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Cleo we're in the Midlands as well, and I am pretty dissapointed with progress on our tomatoes so far this year. :cry: Iv'e got 6 outdoor plants, and for a bit of fun, my OH decided that she'd quite like to grow some herself. (to see if she could beat me!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Anyway, mine are in pride of place on the Deck, Full sun S facing fed, watered, caressed, and talked too etc.etc. (as you do :wink: )
Her's are plonked in a grow bag up against the kitchen wall, North facing.... she rarely looks at them, and they get watered when she remembers, (or I do it)
Guess What?,..................
Yep her's are WAYYYYYYYY better than mine :cry: :cry: what can I say?
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Perhaps I should neglet mine a bit and see what what happens :-)
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Perhaps I should neglet mine a bit and see what what happens :-)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cleo we're in the Midlands as well, and I am pretty dissapointed with progress on our tomatoes so far this year. :cry: Iv'e got 6 outdoor plants, and for a bit of fun, my OH decided that she'd quite like to grow some herself. (to see if she could beat me!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Anyway, mine are in pride of place on the Deck, Full sun S facing fed, watered, caressed, and talked too etc.etc. (as you do :wink: )
Her's are plonked in a grow bag up against the kitchen wall, North facing.... she rarely looks at them, and they get watered when she remembers, (or I do it)
Guess What?,..................
Yep her's are WAYYYYYYYY better than mine :cry: :cry: what can I say?
They tend to - unless special northern variety - do better if they don't get the long daylight hours of our summer time.
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I'm growing Gardener's Delight cherry toms, and I have loads of full size fruits and loads of smaller fruits down to the size of a pin-head, but they are all green.
As it's my first year growing I have no prior frame of reference as to whether they should be ripe yet or not!
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Cleo we're in the Midlands as well, and I am pretty dissapointed with progress on our tomatoes so far this year. :cry: Iv'e got 6 outdoor plants, and for a bit of fun, my OH decided that she'd quite like to grow some herself. (to see if she could beat me!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Anyway, mine are in pride of place on the Deck, Full sun S facing fed, watered, caressed, and talked too etc.etc. (as you do :wink: )
Her's are plonked in a grow bag up against the kitchen wall, North facing.... she rarely looks at them, and they get watered when she remembers, (or I do it)
Guess What?,..................
Yep her's are WAYYYYYYYY better than mine :cry: :cry: what can I say?
They tend to - unless special northern variety - do better if they don't get the long daylight hours of our summer time.
Sorry Gobs.. Iv'e had a blonde moment here(Appologies to all the 'true' blondes...) :wink: Are you saying most varieties prefer being in partial shade as opposed full sun? - I always assumed full sun was best? :?
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Our summer daylight hours with sun tend to be much longer than further South, I find they they do jolly well if not exposed to all of it, all day long and get some shade for a few hours of the day.
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Thank you very much for that advice Gobs...... :wink:
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Thank you very much for that advice Gobs...... :wink:
Ease off now... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Thank you very much for that advice Gobs...... :wink:
Ease off now... :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Oh gawd, Ive been thinking that they need full sun all day to ripen...
Back to the original shadier place they go tomorrow :oops:
Paula
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Oh gawd, Ive been thinking that they need full sun all day to ripen...
Back to the original shadier place they go tomorrow :oops:
Paula
It's alright for you, I can't possibly remove mine other wise OH will smell a rat! I think I'll spray her's with a bit of roundup!
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mine have the opposite effect where they are in shade most of the day and seem to have befitted from the past couple of days of strong sunlight when they have had it, all green but late starting and being moved on to bigger pots which may have checked things.
My neighbour round the corner has loads of cherry toms in his green house and seemed to be doing rather well with them ripening and that was about a week or two when I pooped by for a visit, greenhouse gets a lot more light than mine. Might pay a visit and see how things are doing tomorrow.
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I'm not saying most of the day, big difference.
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Oh gawd, Ive been thinking that they need full sun all day to ripen...
Back to the original shadier place they go tomorrow :oops:
Paula
It's alright for you, I can't possibly remove mine other wise OH will smell a rat! I think I'll spray her's with a bit of roundup!
:shock: :shock: Bad loser :tongue2: :tongue2:
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loser
NO WAY! This is WAR!!!!!!!! :twisted:
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loser
NO WAY! This is WAR!!!!!!!! :twisted:
If they are in pots you can craftily swap em round one by one :lol:
(DONT encourage him Paula!! :oops: )
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loser
NO WAY! This is WAR!!!!!!!! :twisted:
If they are in pots you can craftily swap em round one by one :lol:
(DONT encourage him Paula!! :oops: )
:lol: :lol: :lol: Already thought of that, but mine are in a HUGE tub, I think there's nothing else left but......... Sabotage HEHEHEHEHEHE!!! :twisted:
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Just wait till they are ready
And EAT them all...thats the best revenge :wink:
Paula
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Oh...let her win :-)
Praise her to the skies
Then reap the benefits of a really good tomato dish and a happy OH.
Popped out to visit the toms this am.
Finally lots of tiny green ones....smaller than my peas which my daughter found amusing.
I'm off to buy some more tomato feed.
What do you all use ?
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down here in devon - mine have only just got flowers, i have one green tom, several green ones in my hanging basket - fingers crossed they will be ok, if not, as others, we will all be ok for chutney :roll:
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Hi am new to forum,so be gentle please.....
can anyone help i am growing tomatoes in the greenhouse and
have noticed that under each 'ripening' tom is a ugly black/brown
scab like scorch mark cirular in shape.Any clues as to whats causing this
or what it is?
grateful thanks jaz
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Welcome to the forums, sorry your first post is about a problem.
That has to be blossom end rot. Have a look at this thread....
http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?t=20779
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Sounds like blossom end rot :-( usually caused by irregular watering depleting the plant of necessary calcium
does it look like
this (http://www.rhs.org.uk/Advice/profiles0701/blossom_end_rot.asp)?
Theres a little bit of info on treatment there too, but I know someone else will help, I cant remember what to do off the top of my head
Paula
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there ya go
:D :D
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Thank you for replys, after looking further on the allotment growing advice ,found 'tomato blossom end rot' feel i havent been watering
quite right!
At least i have learnt something new,and will take better care
in future.
jaz
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Sorry I didnt say welcome on the last post, so welcome!
And we live and learn dont we :-( Just a shame we usually have to wait a few months before we can try again!
Paula
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I was thinking about all these late blooming tomatoes, if this isn't worth trying you'll probably get a laugh, I keep reading about sticking things in a drawer with a ripening banana as it gives of ethelene which tells fruit to ripen. Would hanging a couple of ripening bananas in the green house help, maybe detract the aphids or just do as a quick snack if you get hungry on a visit to the green house. I am only beginning to get some fruit showing, were late planted, up north and greenhouse is in indirect sunlight so I may be trying in a couple of weeks :roll:
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I picked my first Tom(blooming Butcher) this Monday & very nice it was too.
I also thought that I'd be making chutney this year but they are ripening very fast now they have started.
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I have loads of good sized green ones, I'm hoping that this warm spell will turn things around. Due to illness earlier in the year I was about 4 weeks late in starting them, but they appear to have caught up.
HOWEVER.......
I also grew plants for my mother. Same packet, raised at the same time, grown on together here & then planted out into their respective grennhouses at the same time.
She's got ripe ones. :(
Went to visit today, came back with a big bag full. Don't know whether to :lol: or :cry: :!:
I've still not got any red ones.
The interesting point is that she hardly has any shading on the greenhouse & I have quite a bit.
I do have to say that my plants look healthier & have far more fruit, albeit green, on them, so I'll be patient!
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Zero ripe toms for me yet... got a bit of shading on the top windows with fleece.... loads of green toms, not even a hint of redness!!!
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I have got loads of ripe toms, been eating then for 2 weeks now and have so many in the fridge, im going to have to make some pasta sauces for storing at the weekend. The are gigante/grapolo/marmande and gartenperle, all outside. the italian plums in the greenhouse are just begining to turn. i must have been doing something right for once. :tongue2:
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Your rough location in your profile would be useful, so that we know what part of the UK to move to!
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Just had my first half dozen properly ripen this week. I think the variety is First in the Field
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I've just been down the garden and we can have one small red tomatoe each for tea. That's two then. Hopefully this is the start and there will be more but it's raining at the moment.
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Update... finally two or three small toms on each plant...all green.
Hopefully in a couple of weeks they'll ripen.
On positive side...no pests this year...abs. none.
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Tons of green tomatoes on my plants, but no sign of reddening anything yet. I planted seedlings of Moneymaker, Gardeners Delight and several mystery varieties passed on from a neighbour. They look happy and healthy, despite my only getting there a few times a week to get some water down them... and a bit of Tomorite once a week when I remember. How long do they typically take from flowering to harvest time? Is there a rule of thumb?
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I'VE GOT ONE RIPENING!
And it's the biggest.
Where one leads.........
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Had first two ripe, red toms last night - tumbling tom. Delicious, but not very filling! :lol:
All the other plants are smothered in green toms though - so here's hoping they ripen soon too.
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(Nottingham)
This is my first year growing tomatoes, and i've had a lot of green fruit for a while now... and I got my first red tomatoes last week. Now they're all going red, and they taste amazing :)
I'm growing gardeners delight and alicante.
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Well done you...
still all green here this year.
Still an improvement on last year when we were rained out :-)
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I got 3 tomatoes! :o One is about 2 inches across, and considering they are beef tomatoes, they still have a few weeks left. Hopefuly the Tomato feed will see to that 8)
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All my tomatoes are still green, all different sizes. One of my Marmande plants is only starting to any signs of fruiting so hopefully by September i'll have some lovely toms.
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I've got 50-odd tomatoes on 4 plants (don't know if that's good but I'm chuffed with it!), from teeny to full size (all cherry toms), they are all as green as green can be!
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I have one plum tomato ripening so i hope it spreads, is it true a ripening banana speeds up the process?
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We have gardners delight 3 plants. The first ones set about 3 weeks ago. These are still green. The majority of the flowers have not even set yet.
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Well, with reference to the long running statring question, tomatoes just don't come much sooner , normally, that's just how they are, I think.
You don't get them ripe in May, whatever the season and a lot of us are sowing them that time. :wink:
And that I have ripe ones outdoors in July is particularly early.
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Nobody suggested they would be ripe in May :-)
Though I wish they were ( yum )
I posted the question because my tomatoes were later than usual to flower and set. Maybe due to pollen clumping because it was very wet a few weeks back. I think if the thread shows anything it's that different parts of the country run to very different timetables veg wise.
Some folk have ripe toms NOW and some are only just setting. It's interesting to see the difference.
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http://lh3.ggpht.com/triyin656/SJQ4u1VbUtI/AAAAAAAAAV0/lovNUZk_GY0/s144/100_0338.JPG
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http://lh3.ggpht.com/triyin656/SJQ4u1VbUtI/AAAAAAAAAV0/lovNUZk_GY0/s144/100_0338.JPG
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(http://lh3.ggpht.com/triyin656/SJQ4u1VbUtI/AAAAAAAAAV0/lovNUZk_GY0/s144/100_0338.JPG)
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at last.... i have been trying to share some pics but it did not work. so sorry for the no comment as per above.
i am just so happy that my toms(first time grower)are about the same as every one elses.
i planted three, two of one type and one of another... as you can see the one has gone crazy and is taking over.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/triyin656/SJQ47gj7AZI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/bwabmTr_bas/100_0341.JPG?imgmax=512
i also have one in the kitchen, on the windsill. it is about two foot six in. and has flowers.... it was taken as a side shout, put in water forabout four or five days until roots started, then potted on... its doing well.
looking forward to loads of fruits.
regards
triyin
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Your rough location in your profile would be useful, so that we know what part of the UK to move to!
sorry, new to this, will edit my profile.......im in sunny east berkshire :)
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I don't know what's going on but I have been picking toms for at least a month. Idid put some in a bit early just in case, but I seem to be doin really well with mine. I've grown Nectar which is a cherry tomatoe and Fantasio both sorts in the g/house. On the allotment I've grown Legend which are producing plenty of fruit but they still need to ripen. I'm southish Swindon.
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mine planted early in pots well watered and very disappointing , thinking of pulling the lot some times seems hardly worth it when i can get them on the market for 60 cents a kilo, peppers aubergines the lot , just not growing , I'm thinking of leaving the ground fallow next year , going to be hard to resist the urge to plant stuff .
Chrissie b
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Such a shame Chrissie...are you thinking the ground just needs a good rest and a feed ??
FINALLY here lots of green tomatoes...now marble sized ...8-12 per truss.
I have pinched out all non vital leaves and am watering and feeding well.
Kids more impressed now they actually look like tomatoes.
My Green Pepper...has several flowers but appears to be doing very little.
I will posess my soul in patience LOL
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I have peppers on my plants. Here is my biggest beef tomato so far.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee19/SuperHacker90/DSCF0355.jpg)
I checked the plant again to discover around 6 new, tiny tomatoes. :D
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I have peppers now too! The largest is a bit smaller than a marble! :lol: But I'm sure they'll come along just fine.
I was wondering...would hanging a banana (for the ethylene) in the greenhouse help my full-grown-but-still-green toms to ripen, or would it be disastrous for those that have not grown to full size yet? I don't want to risk ruining the rest of the crop, just to hurry up the first few ripening... :?:
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I have lots of small green toms (mostly growing cherry varieties) and yesterday I noticed that the first two that formed are definitely an orange shade of green :lol:
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The trick is to go away for the week end, let the neighbour look after them & come back to this....
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/G4IAR/DSCF1239.jpg)
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The trick is to go away for the week end, let the neighbour look after them & come back to this....
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/G4IAR/DSCF1239.jpg)
I thought you'd been quiet for a while! :wink: :lol:
Jealous of your red toms...mine are all STILL green! :evil:
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I thought you'd been quiet for a while! :wink: :lol:
Only for two days! :lol:
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The trick is to go away for the week end, let the neighbour look after them & come back to this....quote]
Lovely picture. I notice you have similar speckles on the leaves to what I have. Any idea what they are?
BJ
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I have five plants in the greenhouse and eighteen small green fruit. I think Gobs hit the nail on the head either on this thread or another when she said that seed from last year has suffered .
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Thought I'd started early this year as was very late with tomatoes last year but mine have not long been setting fruit and Gardener's Delight in greenhouse only half of one truss ripening. What there is of the other varieties still green. Outdoors setting fruit but no sign of ripening! Chillies in greenhouse going great guns, must try & work out how to post pics but peppers outside only just flowering! Glad I'm not alone.
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I have 15 tomato plants (always mean to do less, never happens). Loads of green toms on sub artic, gardeners delight and money maker.
And today ...........big drum roll...... eat my one and only red gardeners delight. All mine didn't share, I grew it and nurtured it so think I am entitled.
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Lovely picture. I notice you have similar speckles on the leaves to what I have. Any idea what they are?
BJ
Old age! These are the bottom leaves, next ones up are fine.
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I have had a number of toms (15 or so) this year and have another 10 or so ready to paick, mostly of gardeners delight. Had a small Big Boy yesterday and have a couple more big ones coming close. Also a Ferline or two has been consumed. Was away for a week and returned on Saturday to signs of blight! Lost the lot last year to it.
The leaves and branches were yellow and lacking turgidity (is that a word?).
Anyway supose it is a race between ripening and rotting!
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I have had a number of toms (15 or so) this year and have another 10 or so ready to paick, mostly of gardeners delight. Had a small Big Boy yesterday and have a couple more big ones coming close. Also a Ferline or two has been consumed. Was away for a week and returned on Saturday to signs of blight! Lost the lot last year to it.
The leaves and branches were yellow and lacking turgidity (is that a word?).
Anyway supose it is a race between ripening and rotting!
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It's not just me....:-) :-) :-)
Had a chat with another gardener today who says that she has given up on her tomatoes this year and binned them ( shock /horror ) because nothing was happening.
Well the Midlands has had a bizarre growing season but at least I have toms now.
Now...the blight watch starts....
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Now...the blight watch starts....
Some of us have been watching it since April! :lol:
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Decided to pick one of the first toms last night, having been so patient
So as I carefully sneaked the tomato in to the kitchen looking for a knife, thinking I was getting the first treat of the year. I discover someone else had already sampled one the day previous.
re: the blight watch, having lost 100 plants last year , this year I was cautious to beware the conditions so gave them a necessary spray with dithane, I think that was late may / june.
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Well, excuse the in-experience, but I don't know what Blight is. I googled it and it looks like some kind of rot? At least I'm getting alot of rain here, I was going to feed them tomorrow, but the soil will still be soaked, maybe, I mean, they are water guzzlers after all :lol:
P.S: off topic, I have to say, I hate that smilie :lol: It looks like a nervous laugh or a quivering top lip
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A couple of sour red ones so far
Loads of big green ones needing some sun to ripen
Not looking promising
But the chillies & peppers are geting there
Alex
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What a difference a week makes.
Twenty conker sized tomatoes here.
Now all I want is some sun......PLEASE...lol
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It's started!!!! :D
I have 3 slightly red-ish tomatoes! Yippee!!!!