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Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: new_2_veg on September 26, 2007, 17:05

Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on September 26, 2007, 17:05: garlic
shallots
broad beans

will be planting up my onion sets over the weekend when ive got some more manure to finnish off the bed.

how long does it take for these to show? ive peged out there my rows are but im worryed about standing on them

nathan
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: WG. on September 26, 2007, 17:28: garlic may or may not show before the New Year. Much the same timing as daffodils, really
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on September 26, 2007, 18:07: oh ok, i was hoping it woul be a bit sooner, can i pit a inch or so of manure over the top as a mulch? just thinking if its going to be that long it may help with weeks etc

nathan
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: WG. on September 26, 2007, 18:17: Yes, I apply a 2-3" mulch of well rotted manure.

As I've mentioned in other posts, you can also oversow with fenugreek but it might be a tad late for that now.
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on September 26, 2007, 19:19: thats great thanks,

i couldnt see any harm in it but wanted to check as ive already dug some in

will just stick with the manure for now i think

nathan
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 08, 2007, 16:11: wg just a quick question if i may please.

ive just been to see how everything is coning on and my garlic has come up about one inch over night, as its showing now is it a problem or is there anything ive got to watch ie frost?

thanks

nathan
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: WG. on October 08, 2007, 16:19: Quote from: "new_2_veg"
my garlic has come up about one inch over night
Naaaawww ??? Green shoots from a planting 2 weeks ago? Can you post a piccie please.

Did you have heavy rain last night? Maybe the soil has sunk.

Garlic is very frost-hardy (otherwise we wouldn't plant it in October).
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 08, 2007, 16:22: im as shocked as you, they where not there yesterday!

i will pop out now and get a pic, i even dug one up to make sure i hadnt got my planting planner wrong and they where onions or something, but no its garlic

nathan
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 08, 2007, 16:30: here we are

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e122/yoyo-dubs/garlicandcarrotbed.jpg)
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: WG. on October 08, 2007, 16:33: Well b*gger me! Apart from growing horizontally, these look great :wink:

Good thing is that you'll be able to see the rows & hoe off any late season weeds.

How deep did you plant 'em BTW?
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: brucesgirl on October 08, 2007, 16:36: Same here - I planted mine three weeks ago - in the wrong place, dug them up a week later and put them in the right place - and they are now three inches high!!
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 08, 2007, 16:40: 2" possibly a bit more, the tops of the cloves where covered about 1/2 inch as a guess

seams like ages ago i set them

im still going to mulch them when i can get to the farm to get some more manure go that will give them a but more depth if i havent planted them deep enough

nathan
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 08, 2007, 16:41: Quote from: "whisky_golf"
Well b*gger me! Apart from growing horizontally, these look great :wink:

now rotated :wink:

:lol:
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: Sally A on October 08, 2007, 17:28: No sign of my garic yet, but at least I know what to look for.

The broad beans I stuck in about 10 days ago are just poking through though.
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: WG. on October 08, 2007, 17:34: Quote from: "new_2_veg"
2" possibly a bit more, the tops of the cloves where covered about 1/2 inch as a guess

seams like ages ago i set them

im still going to mulch them when i can get to the farm to get some more manure go that will give them a but more depth if i havent planted them deep enough

nathan
It will be too awkward to mulch now - you will cause too much damage to the shoots. Don't worry about planting depth; the clove you planted rots away & a new bulb will form at the correct depth.

For the record, I'd be planting porcelain garlic at about the same depth, maybe a little deeper & then adding a 2" manure mulch.
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: Scribbler on October 08, 2007, 17:39: Mother Nature seems to have gone a bit mental. I've got a datura with seven flowers threatening to come out.

I blame all those satellites they keep sending into space.

It's not natural.

My garlic's just come from Dobies so I'll plant soon.
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: Celtic Eagle on October 09, 2007, 12:15: Mine's stuck in the post somewhere Whhaaaa!!!!!!!
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 12, 2007, 16:34: just been to do some leaf clearing,

the garlic has come on great the last few days, i have 3 complete rows and one row thats only got 2 shooting. that one was the last one i set with all the smaller cloves in!

i think if they dont show within the next week or two i will dig the cloves out and sow another row of broad beans

talking of witch over half of them have shooted now too.

only one shallot has sprouted but that has happened since i was up there yesterday.

should i put some slug pellets round the broad beans to be on the safe side?

thanks

nathan
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: mushroom on October 12, 2007, 17:31: omg shallots i wished i planted shallots, they are the buisness for making sauces. I've run out of room on the plot, agggh :oops: how far apart are shallots planted???
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 12, 2007, 18:32: ive done mine 6" apart and a foot apart for the rows.

planting in a bed set up plant 7" apart each way

i dont have all that much room so i dont plant much of anything, but what i do is plant little of alot.

i think depending on my buisnesses if all gos ok i will get a allotment next year but if i end up working for someone again full time i just wont have spare time to do it
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: gobs on October 12, 2007, 18:48: Quote from: "mushroom"
omg shallots i wished i planted shallots, they are the buisness for making sauces. I've run out of room on the plot, agggh :oops: how far apart are shallots planted???

As for your onions, no sorry, as for onions. :wink: :wink:
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: starmoonlilly on October 14, 2007, 13:34: Mine are up too, I put mine in at about 2" as well. Last year I put them in at the recommended 4", but an awful lot didnt do too well.

Ive also planted them on ridges hoping the drainage will be better, though my soil is very good. I shall find out next year which works better, I should have done some of each really......but didnt think :roll:
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: gobs on October 14, 2007, 20:49: All those already growing garlic! Will they bolt next year? :roll:

I get me coat....
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: new_2_veg on October 14, 2007, 21:19: i would!
Title: ive just planted/set....
Post by: gobs on October 14, 2007, 22:34: :lol: :lol: Only kidding in a sadistic kind of a way. :roll: