propagating primocane tayberry medana and blackberry reuben

The tayberry, Medena as I recall, I have seems to be fairly easy, they grow from a central clump, haven't got any runners as raspberries, however they have long canes and these will touch down and the tip forms roots and a new plant.

If I recall the tayberry has thorns, lots of thorns, evil little whatsit. You do need thick good leather gloves to even get close. Loganberry has slightly less, jsut not a lot less.

What happens is the canes get long and without the gloves and ties to hand you cannot just handle the cane and get it off the ground.

The blackberryies I have are Waldo and Loch Ness, again both form a small clumb, both have long cames, cannot recall which has the longer. The long one will also touch down and form roots. Canes can be 12-15 feet long so sometimes they get out of control.