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Title: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mrs bouquet on August 19, 2021, 13:13
At one time you could go into a pub and order rounds of sandwiches.  Nothing out of the way, but they were always full and cut into triangles and presented on a nice platter, maybe sprinkled with some cress.
Nowadays, Pubs have become so pretentious, that you can get cod and chips for £15.00  :ohmy:.   A sandwich -
Oh Madam please !!!!
Actually one of the pubs in our Village do lunch time sandwiches with 3 or 4 choices which have exciting fillings.   They are £7.99 and made on chefs own Forcaccia or farmhouse bread and come with a small salad around the plate and are huge.   You can get chips with them if you want.
Everywhere else a sandwich is a sad thing, in a cardboard box with little filling.    What a meal Deal. ::)
Bring back the proper sandwich.       Mrs Bouquet
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on August 19, 2021, 14:24
Mmm. I've heard that some places tell their sandwich maker to pile all the fillings (such as they are) in the centre so when they are cut it looks much fuller than it actually is.  :mad:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 19, 2021, 15:22
Aaaah sandwiches - the perfect meal in my opinion!

Pub sandwiches had to take over from the disaster of British Rail awfuls, which were boring, stale, dry, fillingless, bent, and dreadful.

Pret a Manger started a new 'craze', and others followed of course, because we all like a nice sarni when the time's right! Office dwellers love them!

Pubs try to make them 'more attractive' by plonking extras like apple, etc., on the plate, but in my opinion, a decent sandwich in a pub should be just the thing, maybe with a bit of tomato, possib;y Branston, and nothing else!

Mumofstig - 'The Swan' In Tufton Street used to do a fabulous Ploughmans lunch for 1/6 (7.5p), back in the sixties...

What more can a lady and gent desire more (at lunchtime, that is ;0) - than a decent, well-prepared sandwich!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: GraciesGran on August 20, 2021, 07:17
Many a long year ago we would take sandwiches when we went out with my parents.  My dad made them, cheese and beetroot (his favourite) and cucumber and marmite.  I can still remember how good they tasted.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 20, 2021, 07:25
Have to admit that I've never had a beetroot sandwich! Dunno why, it's just never occurred to me, even though I just love beetroot!

A basic cheese and tom sandwich is a requirement here, every other day perhaps...

Plus ordinary salad cream - not mayo!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: jaydig on August 20, 2021, 12:22
The only two things I have ever craved on foreign holidays, and which prove impossible to get are a cheese and onion sandwich and beans on toast.  Funny how you miss the simple things that we take for granted. Mrs B - I'm sure that pubs and cafes are missing a trick here.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on August 20, 2021, 17:19
 ... Well, like it or not, I end up with a serving of humble pie every once in a while!  :lol:

Sandwiches are not hard to find here.  Whether it's a Reuben, muffaletta, hamburger, Po' boy, soft shell crab, pimento cheese . . . there are a lot of varieties.  You just need to know where to go to get what you want.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 20, 2021, 18:57
Mrs Growster and I had a sandwich the size of a small elephant, in 'The Old Post Office' in Washington DC!

The chap selling it was delightful, and when we asked for two 'enormous Buds', he nearly collapsed with laughter, and so did we! (It was an exceedingly hot day)!

We had to share just one sandwich - they were just so enormous and we'd watched him do one for a customer before us...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Plot 1 Problems on August 20, 2021, 22:58
... Well, like it or not, I end up with a serving of humble pie every once in a while!  :lol:

Sandwiches are not hard to find here.  Whether it's a Reuben, muffaletta, hamburger, Po' boy, soft shell crab, pimento cheese . . . there are a lot of varieties.  You just need to know where to go to get what you want.

Now you're talking PROPER sandwiches, not rubbish cardboard UK muck ;)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 21, 2021, 06:49
I founded a networking club in London back in the nineties. It started with a basic requirement of beer or wine, and salt beef sandwiches, which we obtained and consumed in 'The Argyll' pub just off Oxford Circus. The sandwiches were to die for, and as we only had four/six/eight of us at a time, our lunches were supreme.

The club grew quickly and now has hundreds of members, and rents a hostelry in the city, but it all started with yours truly - but no salt-beef sandwiches any more, just boring finger food...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: GraciesGran on August 21, 2021, 07:20
Just eaten a bacon and tomato sandwich for my breakfast, lovely.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: snowdrops on August 21, 2021, 12:10
Not sure if what Iíve just eaten will count Mrs B but Iíve just had a BLT for an early lunch, but it had mayo,cucumber (why not when Iíve got a glut lol) but it was on a whole meal soft pitta bread, & it was lovely, in fact I could manage another but wonít  :unsure:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 21, 2021, 13:10
Pitta is a great way to have a sandwich, isn't it!

I've been on those all week, with a sprinkling of water and an oven blast, then a handful of cheese and a lump of butter chucked in while still warm...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: MrsPea on August 21, 2021, 15:17
Pitta is a great way to have a sandwich, isn't it!

I've been on those all week, with a sprinkling of water and an oven blast, then a handful of cheese and a lump of butter chucked in while still warm...
  That sounds good and something different, i'm fed up with finding things for lunch any more ideas ??
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: snowdrops on August 21, 2021, 15:47
I quite like the Warburton thins too, I had fresh crab in one of the pittaís the other day, that was rather nice  :)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 22, 2021, 08:11
I'm afraid that I tend to stop at a decent cheese and tom sarni, and perhaps a BLT when I remember to get the bacon out of the freezer...

In fact, I'm really a bit of a sarni pillock to be honest...

But I do like Mrs Growster's apple crumble for breakfast though, that really does cut the mustard...:0~
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: RubyRed on August 22, 2021, 10:34
   You can stick all the fancy offerings. Hand cut bread, real butter so cold you have to slice it and cheddar. With salad cream not mayo. My other go to is a plain crisp sardine. They always hit the spot.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 22, 2021, 11:57
   You can stick all the fancy offerings. Hand cut bread, real butter so cold you have to slice it and cheddar. With salad cream not mayo. My other go to is a plain crisp sardine. They always hit the spot.
Fabulous!

Mrs Growster is in mid-hanker about a sardine sandwich at the moment! I never thought about the plain crisps, preferably not Walkers - a really decent crisp is called for...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mrs bouquet on August 22, 2021, 12:30
Marmite and cucumber is nice !  Mrs B
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: MrsPea on August 22, 2021, 14:13
Marmite and cucumber is nice !  Mrs B

NO MARMITE horriable stuff
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Christine on August 22, 2021, 14:49
Marmite is great!  :lol:

Sounds like we've hit on one of the great divides here mind.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: wighty on August 22, 2021, 16:12
Marmite on toast or on a thickly buttered crust is considered comfort food here and in my youngest daughter's household.  Eldest family is not allowed Marmite in the house as Ant (SIL) can't stand the smell.   I used to like Bovril and cucumber in a sarnie and I'm another votee for a beetroot sandwich (with salad cream NOT mayo).
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 22, 2021, 17:34
Marmite is just nectar of the Gods, and contains everything needed for the human race...

I only recently learned that it is nice with pasta, and it really is, but of course, pasta isn't a sandwich, so doesn't count...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Hampshire Hog on August 22, 2021, 19:14
The key thing that happened was various companies adding positively weird ingredients to basic sandwiches to justify charging double the price. HH
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: New shoot on August 22, 2021, 19:41
We used to have a lovely deli right in the town centre here that did amazing sandwiches.  It was just a choice of cheese or cold meats they picked from their range every day and really good bread.  No frills but they were very, very good.

It is OHís claim to fame that he used to get his workaday smoked cheese roll from Kate Winslip each lunchtime, back in the day before she was the Kate Winslip  :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Blackpool rocket on August 22, 2021, 22:23
Have to admit that I've never had a beetroot sandwich! Dunno why, it's just never occurred to me, even though I just love beetroot!

A basic cheese and tom sandwich is a requirement here, every other day perhaps...

Plus ordinary salad cream - not mayo!

You need to try a cheese, beetroot and salad cream sarnie, there's no going back.
You can thank me later  :D
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on August 23, 2021, 03:08
NO MARMITE horriable stuff
I have to admit, Marmite (and the similar-sounding product from down under, Vegemite) have Americans confused.  But then again we have peanut butter; also confusing and strange/weird unless you've eaten it all your life.

Of the two 'mites, my research on the interwebs indicates both are yeast extract products, one is the consistency of motor oil and is banned in Denmark, while the other is more like axle grease and is banned in America. I can't offer an opinion, since I've never seen either one of them for sale here. So, enlighten me, what do people love, or hate, about Marmite?
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 23, 2021, 06:33
I hope you realise that you have now started what will be long remembered as yet another Marmite debate, SubP! There will be slaughter on both sides, and prisoners will be forcefully taken from both camps.

I think we lost about fifteen gardeners here during the last Marmite War (2010), and several more good people just disappeared, never to be seen again, because of their views!

The real winners are Unilever of course, as they make the stuff, and all their profits all come from the last tiny drop of Marmite left on the edge of the millions of plates...

Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on August 23, 2021, 08:31
I hope you realise that you have now started what will be long remembered as yet another Marmite debate, SubP! There will be slaughter on both sides, and prisoners will be forcefully taken from both camps.

Like any good Subversive (or even a bad Subversive), I try to sow chaos and disharmony wherever I can.  Just doing my part. You're welcome.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Aunty on August 23, 2021, 08:45
I prefere Bovril on my toast  :lol:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovril
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Lardman on August 23, 2021, 09:08
I prefere Bovril on my toast  :lol:

It's bovril on toast here too - sometimes I put a soft boiled egg on top just for good measure  :tongue2:

Marmite is foul the only place that should be is on Twiglets.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Aunty on August 23, 2021, 09:19
I prefere Bovril on my toast  :lol:

It's bovril on toast here too - sometimes I put a soft boiled egg on top just for good measure  :tongue2:

Marmite is foul the only place that should be is on Twiglets.

And I sometimes grill a sprinkle of grated cheese on top of the bovril.  That is definitely good.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 23, 2021, 10:38
I think the trick with Marmite, is to use very little, as it's pretty strong stuff, although not the same as it was twenty years ago!

Another treat, which costs an arm and a leg, is Gentleman's Relish, and that really isn't for the faint-hearted...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Aunty on August 23, 2021, 11:12
Another treat, which costs an arm and a leg, is Gentleman's Relish, and that really isn't for the faint-hearted...

For the benefit of Sub-P that is an Anchovy based spread.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman%27s_Relish
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Blackpool rocket on August 23, 2021, 11:22
Marmite is lovely, that vegimite stuff is not good in any way.
Gentlemen's relish is fab.

The problem with these spreads seems to be controlling the amount used.
This is fairly easy to overcome. Start off with a quantity (however much you need) of soft butter. Mix a quantity (however much you like) of marmite or relish, or bovril (but not vegimite, that's just wrong) into the butter and mix it thoroughly before you spread it on your toast, or bread, or whatever.
You'll get a much better and an even distribution of the product of your choice ( not vegimite though, that'll get you a ban  :D)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on August 23, 2021, 14:08
In the seventies I used to make a sandwich of buttered brown bread and Barmene which is like Marmite but much nicer. I've also been known to get a barm bun, spread it with butter, put sliced of boiled egg and tomato on and lather it with a good tangy prawn cocktail sauce. Mmmmmmmmmm! :)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 23, 2021, 17:50
Another treat, which costs an arm and a leg, is Gentleman's Relish, and that really isn't for the faint-hearted...

For the benefit of Sub-P that is an Anchovy based spread.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman%27s_Relish

I didn't know that it was an ingredient of Scotch Woodcock, Aunty!

I just love scramblers with smoked salmon, so I suppose it'd be a similar dish - very savoury; very tasty...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 23, 2021, 17:54
In the seventies I used to make a sandwich of buttered brown bread and Barmene which is like Marmite but much nicer. I've also been known to get a barm bun, spread it with butter, put sliced of boiled egg and tomato on and lather it with a good tangy prawn cocktail sauce. Mmmmmmmmmm! :)

'Barmene's' a new one on me, Goosey, as is a 'barm bun', but I think a couple of those used to be the basis of Len Fairclough's lunch in Coronation Street, sold by the gorgeous lady in Bettabuys......
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on August 23, 2021, 22:13
I prefere Bovril on my toast  :lol:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovril

It's interesting where a Wikipedia page can take you Aunty. 

Following your Bovril link takes you (by roundabout connection) to one of the most important scientists ever to study plant nutrition (actually two of them).  Near the bottom of the page in the "See Also" section is a link to "Leibig's Extract of Meat".  The "Leibig" is none other than Baron Justus von Leibig, a chemist who popularized "Leibig's Law of the Minimum", or just "Leibig's Law", which states that plant growth is dictated not by total available resources, but by the scarcest resource (as in, the scarce resource is a limiting factor).  Leibig's Law was initially applied to agriculture, but later has been applied to ecosystems and other populations, as well as other limiting resources (such as sunlight). Leibig's Law is still taught today.  See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_law_of_the_minimum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_law_of_the_minimum)

I mentioned two scientists.  That's because the botanist Carl Sprengel actually developed the science behind "Leibig's Law"; Leibig popularized it.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 24, 2021, 07:02
That's interesting SubP! I didn't know any of that, other than we had a Liebig's Condenser in the labs at school!

Here, in Hawkhurst, we had the Gunther Family, who were i/c the OXO cube!

https://www.greatbritishlife.co.uk/people/taking-stock-the-oxo-story-7089260

His house is now a private school - Saint Ronan's, and the family are all buried a few yards from our garden in a large family tomb, which oddly enough, I've seen the original plans for...

We're very proud of that family, one of the great-grandchildren was a close chum some years ago!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: New shoot on August 24, 2021, 16:49
I await condemnation by the mob, but I quite like a mashed potato and ketchup sandwich every now and then  :blush:

We have also forgotten the fish finger sandwich in our deliberations and the pinnacles of great British cuisine - the chip and bacon butties - singularly or together if you know the right builders cafe to go to  :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 24, 2021, 17:09
While the jury debates the Marmite issue, I only discovered the other day, that it's also great with plain pasta!

Mrs Growster likes the idea of an egg on top, Larders because she's the only girl in the world who has a salt deficiency, but she hates Bovril, so it'd have to be Marmite! There again, she doesn't like Vegemite either, while I do!

She's now back on a diet of Marmite on a Multi-seeded Ryvita for breakfast, and I used to take that with me to eat in the car when I was out all day! It used to go very soft, and was utterly delicious!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on August 25, 2021, 14:24
Currently I'm drooling all over my keyboard so will have to get some Bovril next time I go shopping. I remember having that from a little WRVS stall in a mug of hot water when I used to go from the lab and do a stint in OPD taking blood samples which I put in one of those tubes where you press a button and it whizzed them upstairs to the lab.  Happy days.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: MrsPea on August 26, 2021, 19:00
 fish finger sandwich  brilliant
Yesterday i had scampi chappati with a side salad that was good to  :)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 27, 2021, 06:11
fish finger sandwich  brilliant
Yesterday i had scampi chappati with a side salad that was good to  :)

Fabulous idea!

Years ago, we used to get a 'Prawn and Philadelphia cheese' sandwich in a London pub, which was to die for! Mrs Growster's mum started making them in their pub down South, and they flew off the shelves! Sometimes they were even toasted, and became nectar of the Gods...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on August 28, 2021, 16:08
fish finger sandwich  brilliant
Yesterday i had scampi chappati with a side salad that was good to  :)
Hmmm ...
Mrs Pea, I have to admit I remain suspicious when I hear about "fish finger" anything! I have the same suspicions about "chicken fingers"   ??? :unsure:.  I've never seen a fish with fingers before!  Nor chickens with fingers  :wacko: .  Where do such creatures come from?  Are they genetically-modified?  ???   

Don't get me started on "buffalo wings" ...  I've seen these at restaurants too, they seem too small to allow even a baby buffalo to fly anywhere! Let alone an adult buffalo.  Like fish fingers, I have never seen a buffalo with wings, so I strongly suspect that these wings are made from ERSATZ buffalo!   :ohmy:

In the meantime, for lunch I plan to have a sandwich at lunch made with a ground turkey patty, pepper cheese, a little sauteed red onion and mushroom on the top, with some romaine lettuce and home-grown tomato topping it all, served on seeded whole wheat bread.  Nothing fancy.

Whatever sandwich you are having next, enjoy it in good health and good humor!  :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mumofstig on August 28, 2021, 17:48
Lunch was sliced chicken breast in a pita bread with chopped salad and chilli mayonnaise - superb!!
 :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 28, 2021, 18:12
In the UK, SubP, the ''fish finger' was made popular around the fifties/sixties, and was an offshoot of the 'fishcake', with the former covered in crumby batter, and the latter mainly potato! It was probably similar to what you were served up...

In fact, only recently, for the first time too, I had some fish fingers which had been in the freezer for a long time, so stripped off the batter and chucked it, just to get at the fish 'finger'. It was tiny, but identifiable as a piece of fish and not mechanically formed, like chicken is dealt with, but the pile of batter was much bigger, so you're probably right that it is a bit of creativity somewhere, but which has made them so popular over here! Kids - and grown-ups usually love 'em!

Birds Eye are actually pretty good with their products here, and their frozen veg are usually superior to 'own-brands', (I suspect that sometimes they're the same thing, but lets not be churlish), and their branding with a bewhiskered naval bloke grinning into the camera has endured for ages! Marketing, eh?

I guess mechanically retrieved fish is probably very difficult as the tiny bones would get mashed as well - maybe they are, but with chicken, turkey etc, it's probably a bit easier...

Enjoy your sarni anyway!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on August 28, 2021, 21:49
Growster, I sort of figured the "fish fingers" were probably what are sold as "fish sticks" over here (thin rectangular planks of fish that are mostly breading; fried, and kids love them).

I was just poking a little fun at the marketing names we assign to such foods (tongue-in-cheek).
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 29, 2021, 05:04
Ha ha ha - of course you're right!

Do you ever see Ainsley Harriott these days after 'marketing' made that rather embarrassing mistake?

But I still remember the hero sandwich from the Old Post Office as a yardstick for a week's supply of comestibles! Now that place was well-marketed...!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on August 30, 2021, 11:03
This to write a note of sincere thanks to Aunty, Lardman and others for reminding me of how fabulous Bovril is! We haven't bought any for ages - possibly ever since we were married nearly fifty years ago...

On pain of a disapproving look from Mrs Growster, I bought a jar the other day, and having some on the Dark, Rye Ryvita, is just fabulous for breakfast!

Marvellous start to the day!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mrs bouquet on August 30, 2021, 15:53
and a good drink, when nothing else will do.  (Dunk your toast in and call it a sandwich !)  Mrs B
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on September 07, 2021, 04:25
NO MARMITE horriable stuff
I have to admit, Marmite (and the similar-sounding product from down under, Vegemite) have Americans confused.  But then again we have peanut butter; also confusing and strange/weird unless you've eaten it all your life.

Of the two 'mites, my research on the interwebs indicates both are yeast extract products, one is the consistency of motor oil and is banned in Denmark, while the other is more like axle grease and is banned in America. I can't offer an opinion, since I've never seen either one of them for sale here. So, enlighten me, what do people love, or hate, about Marmite?

The Marmite debate has crossed the pond (see photo, from the International section of our local Publix grocery store). At $10 for this little jar, I have not yet been tempted.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on September 07, 2021, 06:48
That's what used to be the middle sized jar, Sub!

You can buy a very small jar, which is mainly for wimps, or citizens going on holiday (Mrs Growster does that), and there used to be one twice that size for normal, well-balanced people!

The plastic squeezy stuff has to be avoided, as it just runs out everywhere, and causes large dry-cleaning bills, and the nozzle needs a steam-clean every other day!

$10 seems a bit steep, considering the company which makes it is Unilever (they also make Bovril, in an identical sized jar), but I'd have hoped that such a large company could have at least spread its largesse further, and charged less to new arrivals on the comestible front!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Lardman on September 07, 2021, 09:32
All things considered that 10USD isn't actually that bad, I can't image there much demand for it over the pond - being it tastes so foul  :lol: Don't they tax waste imports over there heavily too  ;) .

.... what's that nonsense mustard to the right? Someone send them an emergency crate of Colman's powder (not the premade stuff) over quickly, how else can you eat a roast beef sandwich ?
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mumofstig on September 07, 2021, 09:59
Pfft to the Marmite - I noticed the Jammie Dodgers  :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: New shoot on September 07, 2021, 11:14
The value for money aspect is going to depend heavily on the price of the Jammie Dodgers.  10 bucks may be a long term investment as you only need a very small amount of Marmite for it to go a long way.  It will last even longer if you decide you hate the stuff  :lol:

Jammie Dodgers will last about 10 seconds as unlike Marmite, I have never known any other opinion than 'those need to be eaten - right now!'  They are in reality nothing that special, just nice biscuits sandwiched with jam, but the UK has a deep and abiding love of them and I am sure Americans will fall under their spell at first bite   :D
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Plot 1 Problems on September 07, 2021, 12:40
Now this what I call a sandwich! Triple decker ham and mayo with tomato, peppers and Dijon mustard.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on September 07, 2021, 14:09
Oh yes. I could do with one right now, but could I please have German mustard instead as I much prefer that to the other makes.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on September 07, 2021, 15:07
Sandwiches need to be built rather than made. They need careful consideration of amounts, spread of said comestibles, addition of less than anticipated condiments, and a perfect view of a 'bouncy' subject to be admired and cherished, preferably with a glass of a good Burgundy, or maybe a shriller Chianti, and the meal should be complete...

I reckon British Cheddar cheese is probably the basis of the best sandwich one could wish for!

I hope SubP can get Branston Pickle over there, as it's a staple for some evenings, otherwise it has to be lettuce, cucumber, tomato, salad cream and a sliver of cheese.

Other than that, a Bacon Lettuce and Tomato is the 'businessman's  lunch', and one needs a heavy red Bordeaux to go with it, to settle the nerves, and also help the digestion!!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on September 07, 2021, 18:27
I've not seen Branson pickle or salad cream over here (yet), maybe in larger international markets in Atlanta? British cheddar we can get!

We do have Colman's mustard powder too!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on September 08, 2021, 06:59
Mrs Growster's sister used to have to buy Paxo stuffing over here, and smuggle it in to the US...

Paxo - while not a sandwich condiment - is an additional must for roast pork or chicken!

Mrs Growster's parents ran a fabulous small pub in Rye, back in the 'sixties, and she would provide a 'Club Sandwich' for 2/6 (12.5p now)!

It was three slices of toast, filled with bacon, fried egg and tomato, and they went like hot cakes! When the pub was busy, she had to pop back into the kitchen to form the sandwich, and we all had to muck in serving drinks until she got back!

Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on September 08, 2021, 11:52
Ah - Paxo! I love it too and have fond memories of my mum doing it with roast chicken or pork. She used to make another stuffing with breadcrumbs, chopped thyme and parsley and bound it with a beaten egg. I din't know what it was called but I absolutely loved them.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mrs bouquet on September 08, 2021, 11:56
A Branston's pickle sandwich on its own is acceptable to me  :D  Mrs B
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Lardman on September 08, 2021, 13:42
Paxo - while not a sandwich condiment....

You've not lived until you've had a hot pork sandwich on fresh crusty white bread, with stuffing and gravy. I make the paxo wet and don't cook it. Then spread like soft cheese, add roughly shredded slow cooked pork shoulder, plenty of seasoning and a ladle of real gravy. Serve warm but not toasted  :tongue2:  :tongue2:

Note to self - put a lump of piggy on the shopping list.  ::)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on September 08, 2021, 13:57
Paxo - while not a sandwich condiment....

You've not lived until you've had a hot pork sandwich on fresh crusty white bread, with stuffing and gravy. I make the paxo wet and don't cook it. Then spread like soft cheese, add roughly shredded slow cooked pork shoulder, plenty of seasoning and a ladle of real gravy. Serve warm but not toasted  :tongue2:  :tongue2:

Note to self - put a lump of piggy on the shopping list.  ::)

Now THAT is a sandwich and a half!

Fabulous design, and just what we need for the pieces of pork we always freeze after a roast, as they always get left too long in the fridge...

We have a fabulous butcher (Andersons in Cranbrook), and his pork chops are enough for two meals each; they're so big!

Never even thought of making a paste out of Paxo!

Nice one, Lardy!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mumofstig on September 08, 2021, 15:18
A Branston's pickle sandwich on its own is acceptable to me  :D  Mrs B
I like it on toast  :D
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: wighty on September 08, 2021, 17:38
My two girls only ever asked for a 'just pickle sandwich', which was Branston, my Mum tried putting cheese in but that was moved to the side of the  plate, licked, and the rest of the sandwich eaten.   Anyone else have the nickname for Picallili as Baby's Nappy?
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: New shoot on September 12, 2021, 09:03
I was looking for something in the shop the other day for a customer and discovered we still sell Heinz Sandwich Spread - remember that?  I thought it had disappeared into the mists of time, but no  :lol:

I might invest in a jar just to see if it is the same.  We sell those little tubs of fresh sandwich fillers, but like everyone elseís, they are heavy on the mayo and while I like mayonnaise, I am not so keen on it being the main ingredient in my sandwich.  Sandwich spread was a lot lighter and more tangy in my dim and distant memories of it.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: jezza on September 12, 2021, 09:33
Hello I have sandwiches for my pack up when I'm working away from home,cheese and pickle ,corned beef and ketchup, ham and cheese spread,cheese and jam ,corned beef and jam on brown bread,not all these in the same meal,   jezza
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on September 12, 2021, 10:53
You can still get sandwich spread as OH sometimes has it with a tomato or something.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on September 12, 2021, 18:23
My two girls only ever asked for a 'just pickle sandwich', which was Branston, my Mum tried putting cheese in but that was moved to the side of the  plate, licked, and the rest of the sandwich eaten.   Anyone else have the nickname for Picallili as Baby's Nappy?

Wighty, I'm praying that nickname is based on appearance, __AND NOTHING ELSE!__  ???   :ohmy:.  :nowink:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mrs bouquet on September 12, 2021, 18:34
I was looking for something in the shop the other day for a customer and discovered we still sell Heinz Sandwich Spread - remember that?  I thought it had disappeared into the mists of time, but no  :lol:

Still have it in my 'fridge, love it. :)  Mrs B
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on September 12, 2021, 19:31
Even this morning, I discovered my jar of sandwich spread, while I was looking for the Vegemite!

It lasts for years, and was a staple for parties way back then...

Love it to bits!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on September 17, 2021, 08:51
Just a further observation...

I picked up a blue pack of Ryvita with quinoa and sesame the other day, and it's pretty good! It's very different from their green carton multi-seeded version, although we've been on that recipe for years!

Also by coincidence, I noticed a jar of peanut butter laced with Marmite*, and tried it by making a small quantity my own...

Has anyone else gone the whole hog and actually bought any yet?

(* Someone saw your shelf, SubP)!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 12, 2021, 07:53
Hope I'm not re-crashing this post, but you may like to know that since Aunty and others expounded the Bovril element of a sandwich, it's been a mug of Bovril early every morning for nearly three weeks, and absolutely no tea!

It's a great breakfast starter, and with just an apple or similar afterwards, lasts me to lunchtime!

What a result! I fear an addiction, and have to watch the salt content, but wow, what a great way to start the day!

Many thanks Folks!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mumofstig on November 12, 2021, 09:10
I don't know why but we never drank Bovril, when I was small, it was always a dissolved OXO cube - but they do taste very salty nowadays, so I only use half a cube, when I get the urge for a savoury drink. The other thing I seem to have a run on atm is Leek & Potato CupaSoup  :nowink: but that needs a squirt of vinegar for perfect taste  :lol:
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 12, 2021, 10:15
Interesting that, Mum, because while there is quite a lot of salt in Bovril - and Marmite for that matter, there's a benefit of not getting cramp every night as well!

Our local chemist recommended a magnesium salt which does work, but while Bovril has a sodium salt, I just don't take the Mg ones!

Touch wood, it works, but so does a sock-full of old wine-bottle corks at the foot of the bed...

(True)!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: GraciesGran on November 12, 2021, 11:17
Tried the marmite and peanut butter combo at my sons.  Not for me although I like both individually.

Was given a cup of bovril at work the other day.  I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed it. 
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mrs bouquet on November 12, 2021, 11:49
Used to drink both Bovril and Oxo, but now have to be on a very low salt diet. I only buy the reduced salt oxos and restrict using both Bovril and Oxo to stews, casseroles etc.  I often drink a hot cup of water.

Sandwiches  -  off to an afternoon tea event  -  so will let you know   ;)  Mrs Bouquet
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on November 12, 2021, 12:25
I'm just thinking of getting a jar of Bovril and some cup-a-soups so I can have a quick something foe elevenses.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Lardman on November 12, 2021, 12:27
It's a great breakfast starter, and with just an apple or similar afterwards, lasts me to lunchtime!
There's a lot to be said for the benefits of boiled down knobbly bits  :lol:

This week I've discovered that the need for something sweet can be cured by slapping nutella on a sandwich wrap (the round things I use to make burritos ) rolling and nuking it for 30 seconds. I suppose you could add a 'nanna if you wanted it to be healthy  ::)

Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 12, 2021, 16:21
Love that, Larders!

I've just been to Tesco, and saw some prawns on offer, so popped them in the bag, and, getting home, noticed a box of cheese triangles, so it's a 'Prawn and soft cheese' tonight (see earlier post on delicacies in sarnis)!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 12, 2021, 16:27
Slightly off topic, but years ago, I worked with a chap who'd been in the Royal Navy soon after WW2, and he told me that they used to drink oatmeal!

The idea was that you filled a kit-bag with the stuff, topped it all up with water, and hung it from the ceiling.

The water would slowly seep through the canvas of the kit-bag, and by evaporation, cooled the contents  down considerably, especially in the hot area below decks!

I've never tried it, but it sounds rather pleasant somehow!
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mumofstig on November 12, 2021, 17:28
Assuming that the kitbag had a fine enough weave, so that it worked like cheesecloth, that's just how you would make oatmilk, just like you can buy in the supermarkets at £2 a litre  ::)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 12, 2021, 18:34
Assuming that the kitbag had a fine enough weave, so that it worked like cheesecloth, that's just how you would make oatmilk, just like you can buy in the supermarkets at £2 a litre  ::)

I think that's what he actually meant, Mum!

I like the cooling effect though, as we often shove all the washing up high in the conservatory to dry during the summer, and cools us down too!

Actually, I'd like to get one of those Victorian four-slat driers, which were hoisted up over the range, but Mrs Growster is mightily against that idea...

I didn't know you could actually buy the oatmilk though - must be quite nice with a shot of Vodka and a raisin or three..;0)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: JayG on November 12, 2021, 20:24

Actually, I'd like to get one of those Victorian four-slat driers, which were hoisted up over the range, but Mrs Growster is mightily against that idea...

Oop here in Yorkshire we call them 'creels' - they're pretty handy for drying clothes in winter and you can also claim to have done your daily exercise ration hoisting it up towards the ceiling!  :)
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: snowdrops on November 12, 2021, 20:43

Actually, I'd like to get one of those Victorian four-slat driers, which were hoisted up over the range, but Mrs Growster is mightily against that idea...

Oop here in Yorkshire we call them 'creels' - they're pretty handy for drying clothes in winter and you can also claim to have done your daily exercise ration hoisting it up towards the ceiling!  :)

I have one, I know it as a Sheila Maid
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 13, 2021, 07:21
How to go from a beefy drink to a clothes airer in one page..;0)

Amazon say about £75.00 for one of those, Snows!

Now, if I could just attach the pulleys to the conservatory joists....
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 13, 2021, 07:29
Just to go completely off-topic, Larders, I watched 'The Full Monty' again the night before last, and it's still as fresh and poignant as it was when it first came out!

(So now it's a page from strong-beef to thong-grief)...

But I did watch it with a beef sandwich - phew...
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Lardman on November 13, 2021, 10:15
Just to go completely off-topic, Larders, I watched 'The Full Monty' again the night before last, and it's still as fresh and poignant as it was when it first came out!
I'm sure there must be a link there - but I have to confess I've never seen it  :blush: I was encased in a JPS smoke filled, darkened room, lit only by the glow of CRT monitors searching for potential Y2K bugs back then  :lol: I sort of missed the late 90's.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Growster... on November 13, 2021, 22:48
Just to go completely off-topic, Larders, I watched 'The Full Monty' again the night before last, and it's still as fresh and poignant as it was when it first came out!
I'm sure there must be a link there - but I have to confess I've never seen it  :blush: I was encased in a JPS smoke filled, darkened room, lit only by the glow of CRT monitors searching for potential Y2K bugs back then  :lol: I sort of missed the late 90's.

With due respect to SubP, we first saw 'The Full Monty' in the US, and found that we were laughing several seconds before the rest of the audience...

Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: Goosegirl on November 14, 2021, 14:23
I love the Full Monty as it's not only very funny but quite poignant in places. Same thing with Brassed Off.
Title: Re: What happened to the humble Sandwich ?
Post by: mrs bouquet on November 14, 2021, 14:28
The "Children in Need" Tea was a little bit disappointing.   Only two small sandwiches, one of which was smoked salmon Urrgh.   The scones, were thumb nail size and the quiche tarts were minute, as were the sausage rolls.   Lots of cake bits,  Just didn't seem right and my friend agreed.   The house and china etc was lovely though.  and the men were all in their DJ's.    The event raised £1,230 so worthwhile.  Mrs B

BUT, not a proper sandwich  !! :(