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« on: August 28, 2008, 15:35 »
I have heard that Glysophates could be delisted!
Have any others heard of this :?:
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Re: Glysophates
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 15:40 »
Quote from: "Beejay"
I have heard that Glysophates could be delisted!
Have any others heard of this :?:


Nope where did you here this ?
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2008, 09:08 »
The manager of our local market who also has a plot on our site :!:

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2008, 09:42 »
I'd have thought that Monsanto has to much a vested interest in round up to let this happen. Most chemicals that get delisted are those that are not profitable enough for the manufacturer to retest under the new EU regulations. Wait and see  :)

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 20:38 »
Seems there is an artical in Gardening News (or similar) that says that  Glyphosate is to be banned.

EU again it would seem. Don't get the mag and so no idea of any more about it, like why and when it may occur.

Seems the weeds have beaten us, they have lobbied successfully at  Strasberg!

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 20:41 »
:roll:  it's all gone mad  :scratch:

I've just emailed Monsanto they should know, if they will tell me.

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 17:45 »
There is an article in amature gardening about this. If i am allowed,
 i dont want to get any one in trouble for copyright could some one let me
 know if i can do this i will try and scan it and put it on here

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 20:30 »
Don't think you can Karen, but thanks for the offer.

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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2008, 00:00 »
http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2008/08/08/111582/eu-pesticide-ban-your-questions-answered.html

It seems the EU want to change chemical licensing away from the actual exposure to residues left on crops/waterways and change it to the properties of the chemicals themselves, regardless of exposure level.


A material safety data  sheet specifically stating it doesn't have any of the effects that the EU want to ban for.

http://www.nomixenviro.co.uk/index/msds/amenityglyphosate360.html


A report into the effects on UK farming

http://deadsmall.com/3TU

The EU, though, have also proposed extra measures that go further, and glyphosate is on the list of possible hazardous materials that should be substituted over the next five year - if the law is approved.

What exactly these will be substituted with hasn't been said 'cos the majority of insecticides/fungicides/herbicides will be banned.
The last .pdf is well worth a read of the conclusions, basically stating that intensive arable farming will be unsustainable, storage of food crops will be prone to mycotoxin contamination or product spoilage, and the EU will be very short of food.

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2008, 16:00 »
I hope it's not,  I've just bought 2 huge pump spray cannisters full of it to battle against the weeds on my lottie  :oops:  (it's a temporary suspension of my own self imposed rule!)

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2008, 16:13 »
Don't worry about it Snoozi...quite a few organic members have to use it once in a while to stay ahead of the weeds. I use myself from time to time, but sparingly. Some plants (like couch, bindweed and burdock) are just so tough that repeated usings of glyphosphate is needed to set them back enough to be able to control them.

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2008, 16:39 »
Dandelions are the bane of my life and still flowering despite the weather which is never dry long enough for the spray to work.  :roll:

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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2008, 17:02 »
that's the problem I've got.  I figured with it not raining today I'd go and spray but everything is too wet still, and we're bound to get more rain very soon by the look of the clouds  :?

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2008, 21:24 »
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Dandelions are the bane of my life and still flowering despite the weather which is never dry long enough for the spray to work.  :roll:


The old cure for Dandylions was to cut the top off and push a skewer down the centre which had been dipped in creosote (oh, I forgot, creosote has been banned, unless you're in the trade and order a 40 gallon barrel. Bl**** ridiculous).

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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2008, 22:25 »
Quote from: "Christine"
Dandelions are the bane of my life and still flowering despite the weather which is never dry long enough for the spray to work.  :roll:


About 24 hrs is enough add a drop of washing up liquid that helps break down the waxy leaf coating. In fact you can get away with a lot less hours if it's only light rain.


 

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