Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Eating and Drinking => Kitchen Natter => Topic started by: chrissie B on September 06, 2015, 19:07
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Did a belia wwite loaf yesterday it took an absolute age to prove it only had a 3/4mteaspoon of fast yeast found it a bit salty myself but hubby liked it it had a lovley smell just makes 1 large loaf .
chrissie b
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What amounts of the ingredients did it call for?
My typical sandwich loaf is 500g strong white flour, 1 rounded tsp of fine salt (about 7g), 1 sachet of fast yeast (or 20g of fresh yeast if you have it) and 320ml to 330ml of warm water. Optionally you can add 2tbsp of light olive oil if you prefer a slightly softer loaf. I tend to allow to rise covered in a warm place until doubled, knock back and put in a lightly buttered 2lb loaf tin (don't use olive oil as it will stick), cover and allow to rise until almost doubled then bake at 200C for 45mins.
My variations involve replacing up to 20% of the flour with light rye flour, taking out 10ml of the water (rye makes a stickier loaf) and upping the cooking time to 50 mins.
I recommend Shipton Mill for flour if you are making it regularly but store it in plastic boxes. I know that Sainsburys do some Taste The Difference flours that seem to match the Shipton Mill range and are well priced.
Brod and Taylor do a nice folding proofer that keeps dough warm (I use 26-27C) and also handles home yogurt making (41C). Amazon stock it and I can answer questions if you PM me.
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Thanks for all that info , dont remember off hand but im sure it was 2 teaspoons of salt and 3/4 teaspoon of fast yeast it took ages to prove it was a large loaf , would other oil be ok i use butter as a rule unless it says oil but i was thinking sesame might be nice , ive used sainsburys budget brand flour its ok not bad at 95 pim going through different types to see which one i like .
chrissie b
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You can certainly use butter in a loaf - just put a good chunk, equivalent to a couple of tablespoons, in a small bowl, cover it in clingfilm and microwave for about 15s till melted and add it just before the warm water.
The amount of salt sounds high but it depends on the amount of flour. One rounded tsp per 500g is usual.
If you want a sesame flavour, try adding a good few tbsp (about 1/4 cup) of white sesame seeds in with the flour. It will add a delicate flavour, especially to the crust. You can use pumpkin seeds too.
Shipton Mill flour is a premium brand at about £1.20 a kilo. Doves is good too but any Strong White or Strong Wholemeal will taste better than a store-bought loaf.
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Have to agree there just did a half and half loaf realy tasty i love brown bread much nicer than white . Have you been baking bread long ?ive given up on trying to get it crusty its ok for a while but the breads ok .
chrissie b
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Try putting a tin of water in the oven for crusty bread
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When you think the loaf is cooked, put it back in the oven for another 5-10mins - then it'll be crusty :lol:
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I have been making bread at home for the two of us for about fifteen years... ever since an "accident" with a teddybear-shaped chocolate covered doughnut from what turned out to be a somewhat unhygienic local bakery. I regretted that doughnut for roughly two weeks.
The local rumour goes that as some late-night bank staff exited their training session next door and walked past the outside of the bakery window, the mice walked past the inside. Health and Safety found mice, of course. There were pigeons in the flour store and no hand-washing facilities for staff. It is an IFA office now.
Ever since then I have cooked my own bread. Nigella once said that a loaf of bread is ten minutes work spread over a three hour period.
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We don't eat shop bread at all now, but because of my hands, I'm not good at kneading, so I let my breadmaker do the hard work, then finish the loaf off in the oven.
I usually use frylight to grease the tins as I'm trying to keep my weight down, but I do have one tin that sticks Daniel, so do you think if I use butter to grease it, it will stop it sticking? mmmmm will try that this afternoon.
I rarely make white bread, just different variations of wholemeal, rye or whatever. But if I'm in a rush, I do like the Wrights mixes, especially their parmesan and sun dried tomato bread, or the focaccia, or the ciabatta, which I make into rolls and freeze before rising.
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The tins I have are pressed aluminium but I don't remember where I got them from. Bakery Bits in the UK still stock them as a "seamless aluminium loaf tin".
Olive oil will go sticky. Butter or peanut oil won't.
I don't use the tins all the time - only if the dough is a little slack. I prefer to use wooden bannetons to support the dough while it is rising.
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To stop any tin sticking, I grease with butter, olive oil, or veg oil, then dust that with flour. never ever sticks guaranteed!
Also bread is improved by a long, slow rise, I never make warm dough, usually the water is at about 17 - 20 deg.
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I started using a baking release spray earlier this year, after seeing it used on GB Bake Off and now use it on all my tins.
It makes everything non-stick :D
http://www.oetker.co.uk/uk-en/our-products/home-baking/baking-ingredients/cake-release-spray/cake-release-spray.html
Other brands are available - I use the Wilton spray cos I know I can also use it on my fondant icing moulds and cutters :)
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I always wondered what was in that stuff. I'm happy to use butter since it takes so little to cover even a large loaf tin.
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Each to their own :)
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Forgot to say, I never wash my loaf tins. Just wipe them out with a kitchen towel.
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I did oil but they allways stuck now i butter them and no probs .
been using some rye flour a 50 50 loaf its got such a nice tast i ould eat all day .
chrissie b
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I never use tins, only trays. They are at least 30 years old and rarely get washed so don't need greasing. I only wash if I have used them for pastry as it usually leaves them greasy.
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I use a few pyrex traditional glass loaf tins and nothing sticks to them.
If I do use loaf tins, I have a few old ones and use some rapeseed oil lightly spread over the inside.
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Never seen glass bread tins before.
cbrissie b
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Pyrex ones
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/319St-uCNkL._SX300_.jpg)
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Very nice not seen them in shops though .
chrissie b
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John lewis and my local waitrose are selling them now, saw at the weekend and online.
Argos have in the past.
Saw them at Dunhelm recently.
Many of the cookshops near me stock them.
Pyrex on Amazon is always a good deal.
Have a few differing size ones, that I use.
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I had two of those but can I eck as like find em! I think they got left behind in the move :mad:
I love sesame seeds in (and on the top) of bread. Yum. Great when you toast it :tongue2:
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Do they produce a nice loaf.
chrissie b