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Poultry and Pets => Pets without Feathers => Topic started by: Elvira on January 31, 2014, 14:09

Title: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Elvira on January 31, 2014, 14:09
... whose dog is off the lead and is harassing my dog (who is on the lead) seem to think that my dog is the problem?  I tend to keep my dog on a short lead at the moment as she is coming into season and doesn't have good recall - yet a man who couldn't control his dog seems to think I was being irresponsible?!   This also happened to me a few years ago when I was walking a dog for a friend - being a recent rescue we weren't sure of his recall so again I had him on a short lead and got a mouthful from a man whose dog wouldn't leave poor Monty alone.

I really don't understand this attitude but fortunately it seems to be a minority of dog owners?  Apologies for the rant but it really spoils a good walk as I get so cross   :mad:
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: tosca100 on January 31, 2014, 14:57
Ah yes, I have met them. And also the 'expert' who will tell you that the dogs would behave better if allowed to interract off the lead.

I used to be a home/pet sitter so often had dogs out who I did not know, and unless I had it in writing that I should let the dog/s off the lead they stayed on. But I was forever getting advice or, as you say, blamed for other people's dogs misbehaving.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Growster... on January 31, 2014, 15:42
I'm afraid they're usually morons, Elvira, and we treat them as such!

We always have our Jack Russell on a lead, as she'd go for anything if she had half a chance, she's so protective of us!

She doesn't mind bigger dogs, like placid old labradors etc, but anything small and violent, ooooooh nooo...!

I always ignore the sort of people Tosca mentions also, as they really join the limited-brain-cell brigade as well!
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: snowdrops on January 31, 2014, 17:14
It is very annoying isn't it. I've walked with my sister & her bullies, they were always on the lead & always moved out of the way when anyone/dog came near,as they were not the best behaved & had no recall. People would insist on letting their dogs sniff round & rush at them & then said you shouldn't be allowed those dogs when they eventually had a snap. They were just showing in the only way they had that it wasn't acceptable.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: barley on January 31, 2014, 20:15
I have my dogs off lead as they are friendly , but dogs will always want to have a nosy sniff of each other  :)
so my rule is if other dog coming towards us is off lead I leave mine off to sniff, wag , play

but if owner has their dog on lead coming towards us I put mine on leads out of curtosy to the other owner

simple really but there are some really stupid dog owners out there  :nowink:

maybe shout out as their dog approaches ,can you please recall your dog and put it on its lead , might fall on deaf ears but might embarrass them into responsible dog owner behaviour
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Lardman on January 31, 2014, 20:19
We have numpties like those round here too.   :(  I hate to say it but it's normally owners of small, pamper mutts thinking it's cute their yappy little ferret wants to start a fight. :mad:

Max hates ill-mannered, yappy dogs but you can imagine who would get blamed if he ate one even though I always keep him on lead.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: joyfull on January 31, 2014, 22:30
In the event of any fight breaking out if your dog is on a lead then you are in the right.
My Rosie is friendly to all people and dogs unless they bark at her or come bounding up to her so she is always on a lead and I expect people to recall their dogs when we get close to each other.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: blackberryjam on February 03, 2014, 08:47
I have my dogs off lead as they are friendly , but dogs will always want to have a nosy sniff of each other  :)
so my rule is if other dog coming towards us is off lead I leave mine off to sniff, wag , play

but if owner has their dog on lead coming towards us I put mine on leads out of curtosy to the other owner

simple really but there are some really stupid dog owners out there  :nowink:

maybe shout out as their dog approaches ,can you please recall your dog and put it on its lead , might fall on deaf ears but might embarrass them into responsible dog owner behaviour


Unfortunately there are alot of irresponsible dog owners out there, with had few attacks around here , one on a guide dog , a husky and a spaniel ,the guide dog you may of read about in the news paper the beautiful husky I've not seen for a long time, the spaniel is now to scared to leave the house,, that's just the ones I know about. All attacked buy the same breed of dog.
Our Max was happily playing ball over the park when out of nowhere a snarling growling dog appears and chases him all around the park , after about 10min the owner eventually arrived ,no apology just a smug look on his face, well that did it the air above the chilterns turned blue.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Elvira on February 03, 2014, 13:07
Thanks all - that makes me feel a bit less cross  :)

Also one positive thought - it does make me wonder why I think my dog has bad recall compared to his!!  :D
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Diddy Gardener on February 04, 2014, 09:21
My border terrier is always on a lead as he's not keen on boxers, alsations etc. If a dog comes running over I'll try and get between my dog and theirs... but if he does have a snap it's my fault... according to the other dog owners, yeh right!

I read something about yellow ribbons once... tying one to your dog's lead to show that they aren't 'sociable' and people should keep their dogs out of the way. No-one I know has ever heard of it so don't know how effective it would be.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: jaydig on February 04, 2014, 16:38
We used to have the same problem when we had our huskies. They were always on the lead, and the worst problems seemed to come from small, spoilt, "yappy" dogs off lead, who would run up to ours, jumping around and yapping, with their stupid owners saying things like "Oooooooh, isn't he/she brave", referring, of course, to their own pampered, out of control dog. No, they're not brave, and you, sir or madam, are pathetic, inconsiderate and rude!  Given that our male husky had a tendency to lift his leg and pee on things that irritated him for no good reason, they were fortunate not to be taking a very wet excuse for a dog home with them.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Elvira on February 04, 2014, 17:38
Diddy - I saw a leaflet about the yellow ribbon/lead scheme at the vets and have seen a few owners using them but as you say I am not sure whether that many people know about it.  But people do tend to ask if she is ok to be approached by their dog when they see she is on the lead.

The thing is my dog really likes other dogs, always wants to make friends and doesn't have a problem being on the lead when other dogs aren't.  The issue is where the other dog is allowed to sniff to the extent of harassing her and you really can't get them away.  She tries to sit down (ears back) and they still push to the extent of bullying her - it is usually larger dogs (particularly labradors and springers when they aren't properly controlled) so she is really pushed around.  She has only ever snapped once which was the other day - most responsible owners get their dog away/on a lead as soon as they see what is happening but in that case the owner wouldn't (couldn't) control his springer so she snapped. 

Fortunately I haven't seen the springer or its owner since so our walks have been good - apart from a horse poo eating incident yesterday egged on by a couple of dalmations    ::)  Norty step all round after that...
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: diospyros on February 04, 2014, 19:06
Why on earth yellow ribbons, you might think they were waiting for someone to come home... horse owners put a red ribbon on the tail if their horse kicks, so that colour would seem to be a better choice?
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: joyfull on February 05, 2014, 07:18
this link will answer some of your questions about yellow dog ribbons and bandanas:-

http://www.yellowdoguk.co.uk/

Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Diddy Gardener on February 05, 2014, 15:27
Just don't talk to me about horse poo... almost strangled wee Brodie the oyher day trying to drag him away froma fresh pile...  :D
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Elvira on March 18, 2014, 13:21
Aieee - the horrible man has struck again! This time he really lost his temper when I asked him if he could control his dog - he kept telling me I was stupid (for keeping my dog on a lead), rude (for trying to explain to him why I keep her on a lead) and unpleasant (for pointing out his dog wasn't under control because it was completely  ignoring him).  He kept shouting at me until he finally put his dog on a lead because that was the only way he could control it- I had picked up my dog in the meantime and was walking away.  It was a really nasty experience and he really couldn't deal with it rationally.   :(

I reported him to the Forestry Commission office and the manager went out to see if he could spot him but is there any way to deal with him?  The Husband suggested not walking there again but seeing as I have a season ticket I don't see why I should avoid it.  I was wondering whether to keep a camera on me in case this happens again so at least the FC know what he looks like?  Any suggestions as to what to do?
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: snowdrops on March 18, 2014, 14:18
The camera is a good idea,does your phone have one? Walk with a lage walking stick & clink the other dog if necessary.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Goosegirl on March 25, 2014, 11:33
Unfortunately, I have another horror story to tell you which makes it even more important to keep dogs on a lead in certain areas. My dear farmer friend lives in a small village in rural Oxfordshire and has some lovely special free-range hens of which he is very proud. A dog walker came down the little lane where he lives and, despite notices at the gates about keeping dogs on a lead, she didn't bother. The dogs ran into the driveway and one grabbed a hen, plus the other hens were very distressed. He ran out to chastise her, slipped on the wet path and fell. As a result of his fall, he splintered his femur - the same one where he had a hip replacement two years ago. He is now in hospital and will have to have a deeper pin put in. Can't say anymore as I am so angry and upset.
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: Elvira on October 14, 2014, 17:56
Last week I met the man (again) who can't control his dog (of course "he doesn't need to be on the lead").  This time he was with his wife and I think it may partly explain what the problem is!

When his dog started to harass mine, I picked her up and kept walking, ignoring the man completely so he wouldn't start on me. As usual his dog wouldn't respond to his calls and kept jumping up at me as I kept walking. His wife then started making what can only be described as noises better kept to the bedroom and shrieked her head off until the dog switched his attention to her!  You knew exactly where they were in the woodland over the next half an hour as this bizarre moaning and high pitched shrieking started up at regular intervals. I presume they were calling the dog back?!   ;)

No wonder the husband can't call the dog back when he is on his own  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: snowdrops on October 14, 2014, 18:17
How bizarre, it's a wonder the police weren't called to investigate those 'bedroom' sounds in the woods :lol:. That would have been worth you witnessing :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: unpleasant dog owner - update
Post by: mumofstig on October 14, 2014, 18:33
they make me very angry  >:(

I've merged the update with the original thread, so it's all together.