Broad beans, onion sets and snow

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« on: March 17, 2007, 00:09 »
I planted broad beans and onion sets last weekend (first things planted on my plot by me ever). Now I hear snow is on the way.

Do I need to cover them up?

They are in a raised bed 5m x 3m and I tried to cover them with fleece earlier but it was really windy and no number of bricks kept it in place.

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2007, 00:10 »
They'll be snug and warm under the surface

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2007, 00:57 »
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They'll be snug and warm under the surface


but if your worried tuck em under some fleece  :wink:
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2007, 07:57 »
I wouldn't bother - it's unlikely to settle... (famous last words of Michael Fish  :) )
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2007, 08:43 »
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Quote from: "whisky_golf"
They'll be snug and warm under the surface


but if your worried tuck em under some fleece  :wink:


The fleece just blows off and if the snow settles on the top won't it weigh it down til the fleece touches the ground?  I thought that would make the fleece kind of pointless? Or perhaps I'm wrong?

Is a layer of fleece useful even if there is snow on top of it and the fleece is in contact with the ground?

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2007, 08:51 »
Quote from: "yummy"
Quote from: "muntjac"
Quote from: "whisky_golf"
They'll be snug and warm under the surface


but if your worried tuck em under some fleece  :wink:


The fleece just blows off and if the snow settles on the top won't it weigh it down til the fleece touches the ground?  I thought that would make the fleece kind of pointless? Or perhaps I'm wrong?

Is a layer of fleece useful even if there is snow on top of it and the fleece is in contact with the ground?


Soft snow is not a problem, it acts as a blanket, if anything. Hard frost on the other hand................
Did it really tell you to do THAT on the packet?

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2007, 09:06 »
I would agree it`s the cold wind and frost that will do the damage.

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2007, 10:25 »
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I tried to cover them with fleece earlier but it was really windy and no number of bricks kept it in place.

Laying fleece in a Force 10 gale is easy if you start at the windy end.  A brick every 2 feet will stop the wind getting under it.  Then work your way down the sides towards the leeward end.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2007, 13:46 »
ok thanks. Will go down and pop fleece on then with even more bricks this time.

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2007, 13:49 »
Quote from: "yummy"
ok thanks. Will go down and pop fleece on then with even more bricks this time.

I wouldn't bother unless they have actually surfaced.  I was just explaining how to lay fleece.   :)

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2007, 13:51 »
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Quote from: "yummy"
ok thanks. Will go down and pop fleece on then with even more bricks this time.

I wouldn't bother unless they have actually surfaced.  I was just explaining how to lay fleece.   :)

Oh ok  :)  will fleece my tiny strawberries cos they only went in last weekend too ( thinnings from plot next door)

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2007, 13:57 »
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will fleece my tiny strawberries cos they only went in last weekend too ( thinnings from plot next door)

Yup, they'll appreciate it more.  Betya it is calm when you do it!   :)

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2007, 20:25 »
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They'll be snug and warm under the surface


But why are broad beans OK now but for pole beans it is  far far far far far far far too early :?:
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2007, 20:32 »
Quote from: "yummy"
Quote from: "muntjac"
Quote from: "whisky_golf"
They'll be snug and warm under the surface


but if your worried tuck em under some fleece  :wink:


The fleece just blows off and if the snow settles on the top won't it weigh it down til the fleece touches the ground?  I thought that would make the fleece kind of pointless? Or perhaps I'm wrong?

Is a layer of fleece useful even if there is snow on top of it and the fleece is in contact with the ground?

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ok let me add this bit sory for any misunderstanding. when i said tuck em under some fleece i didnt think to add with a frame to keep the fleece of the ground like a cloche . the snow will fall on the fleece and form a thermal blanket .the temperature under the fleece will stay a fraction above the outside temp if heavy snow falls and prevent the ice forming in the soils surface



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