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Title: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! :D
Post by: garrarufa on January 10, 2020, 00:19
I started to write a simple question (see below), which turned into me not really wanting an answer to that question. Sometimes it can be fun to just be in limbo and see what happens. That being said, by all means give a solution, or prognosis, or just a similar story from past experience. :)
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My first years yield of stuff I wanted to try my hand at pickling: Beetroot, four jars. A mix of late year spring onions and salad radishes, another four jars. Eight jars, with the other four not being used. Boxed sets, etc...
 
So, my question is, why do I find it impossible to open these jars some months down the line?

I researched as best I could and read everything about preserving and pickling. To the point where I decided I'm doing gerkins this year, and also buying a dehydrator for use on some of my chilies. But still... I can't get these blooming tops off!

I'm no Mr. Strong, but I still have a very decent grasp in my hands. I'm sure I could choke out several people before the police showed up. Erm... bad frame of reference. But hopefully you get my point.

These jars... these "Bell" jars (?) I purchased on good merit after much consideration. Wow, they really do preserve... because I can't blooming open them! Real hard squeeze and turn, try a tea towel over the top for more purchase... bite, claw, plead... I cannot open them. The tops don't present the push down "pop" thing, so I would assume the contents are fine. Boy, I would really like to get in there, haha.

It's frustrating, but also amusing at the same time. Which makes it slightly more frustrating, and then also much more amusing. It's a loop that has me laughing more than being vexed. I'm at the point where I don't care if I never get to open those jars. The journey of the attempt is enough to keep me giggling.

So, that's it. I did come with questions, but when I started typing, I realized I possibly didn't come here for answers, but maybe similar stories? I don't know.

regards
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: Enfield Glen on January 10, 2020, 07:36
Its a question of physics, when you put the contents in the jars they are hot and as the cool the air shrinks pulling the the cap tighter. What you need to do is break the seal, simplest way is using a bottle opener, the type you get with a corkscrew attachment , use it as though you were opening a bottle of beer to gentle let air in. Should then open easily.
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: DHM on January 10, 2020, 07:58
Ha, I feel your pain! I'm a big dude so if I can't get the top off a jar, it's stuck. In the end I usually resort to stabbing through the lid with the tip of a big kitchen knife to release the pressure, then add a new lid or decant contents into something else.
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: mikem on January 10, 2020, 09:26
You can get an opener from places like Lakeland or direct through Amazon quite cheaply and they work really well. Alternatively try puting them under the hot water tap as this should loosen them a bit - providing you turn the water on!
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: mumofstig on January 10, 2020, 09:39
I push a knife down the side of the lid, 'til  they pop to release the vacuum.
If they're the preserve jars with screw top outer ring - I remove that and then slide a knife just under the edge of the flat middle lid, which also releases the vacuum. Simples!
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: Plot 1 Problems on January 10, 2020, 09:45
When putting the lid on during the preserving process, don't tighten it fully, as the jar and contents cool, the lid will contract and form a nice seal with out beign too tight to undo.
And as suggested above, run the lid under a hot tap, it'll cause the lid to expand slightly and should let you unscrew it a little more easily.
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: mrs bouquet on January 10, 2020, 11:03
I am like DHM, I carefully wrap around the jar, and then put a squewer on top of the lid, and careful hit that with a steak hammer.  :ohmy:  It only has to just pierce the top and job done.     Mrs Bouquet
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: snowdrops on January 10, 2020, 11:39
Try putting a rubber glove on your dominant hand then gripping the jar, turn the jar & not the lid. Hope the contents are fine & that the vinegar hadn’t corroded the lid on if they were not designed for pickles!
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: WeavingGryphon on January 10, 2020, 14:31
I'm rubbish at opening jars so I bought an arthritis jar opening aid. I love it, I got my mother In Law two for Christmas, one for the house and one for her office. I offered the Father In Law one but he declined.
The style I got is sold as "UNIVERSAL BOTTLE OPENER JAR LID EASY GRIP DISABILITY AID KITCHEN TOOL TOP NEW ".
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: jezza on January 10, 2020, 14:36
Hello steak hammers interesting my mother's got some stuck lids my 14lb hammer should open them easily  jezza
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: jezza on January 10, 2020, 14:38
Hi I read steak hammer wrong mines a stake hammer
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! ;D
Post by: Kleftiwallah on January 10, 2020, 15:57
Just tap around the edge of the lid with the handle of a kitchen knife,

(go carefully you won't see the blood in the beetroot).

Cheers,  Tony.
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! :D
Post by: Ema on January 19, 2020, 10:34
It’s frustrating to ruin a good lid, with supermarket jars and lids I just take an old fashioned hook can opener to them with nice lids that I want to keep I use boiling water and gently poor until I hear a pop.
Title: Re: Opening Preserved/Pickled Jars. No, Seriously! :D
Post by: 8doubles on January 25, 2020, 10:59
Running the lid under the hot tap often works.

If the contents were filled cold (as you would pickled onions) there will not be a vacuum so little point in piercing the lid !
The rubber strap type openers are good and do not damage the lids like the big metal circle jaw ones do.