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stainesbloke

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Re: fruit trees
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2013, 09:57 »
i plan to buy a few for the patrio , dwarf stock, plan on doing cherries , plums ....any suggestion as to a goo dplace to buy some

A lot of people get taken in by the cheap offers available from chain store outlets and then wonder why they get hardly any fruit. The plant may be a good one but without an appropriate pollinator it will struggle to give you a regular supply of fruit which is what you are after when all is said and done. You need to make sure you have the correct pollinators and that information is readily available from a renowned nursery. I don't regret buying from Rogers Nurseries as all my trees have never let me down even in the most dire years when everybody else's apples were failing. But any good nursery will give that information.
Sorry to plug this again, but if you don't support your native varieties they will eventually die out. People tend to forget just how many different English apples there are because they've been fed with a limited number of supermarket varieties over the years and think that is about it.
I had a student come to stay for a few weeks and when he ate one of our apples he said that it was the best apple he had ever tasted and didn't know that apples could taste that good. He was in his 30's too and had eaten nothing but the usual supermarket culprits, poor lad.
 
You can plant your own garden of Eden but make sure the supermarket serpent is not lurking in your brain.
Up the English apple!

The dwarfing apple that I've put in is a Laxtons Superb, I believe it's an old English variety popular with the Victorians. Never tried one but am hoping it will have that excellent non-supermarket flavour!

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2013, 10:21 »
Great thread! We want to add some fruit to our garden plans and we're torn between planting some cordons in with the veg (in what will be a kind of informal potager) versus having some dwarf pyramids (apple & pear) and gooseberry/currant bushes further down the garden.

If we have cordons I suppose we can easily net them. Less so a 'fruit forest'. Is anyone successfully growing soft fruit WITHOUT netting?

Also on a technical note, I've read that Quince A is the "best" dwarfing rootstock for pear although Qunice C is smaller. Small sounds good - so what's wrong with Quince C?
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Lincolnshire Floyd

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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2013, 11:20 »
Great thread! We want to add some fruit to our garden plans and we're torn between planting some cordons in with the veg (in what will be a kind of informal potager) versus having some dwarf pyramids (apple & pear) and gooseberry/currant bushes further down the garden.

If we have cordons I suppose we can easily net them. Less so a 'fruit forest'. Is anyone successfully growing soft fruit WITHOUT netting?

Also on a technical note, I've read that Quince A is the "best" dwarfing rootstock for pear although Qunice C is smaller. Small sounds good - so what's wrong with Quince C?

I find that anything grown in the 'flat' against a wall or trimmed to make a cordon needs netting as the birds can easily get to the fruit and perch on the branches or wires. A bush is more difficult for them to get a hold and I have never had need to net my black currants or red currants grown as bushes. Gooseberries is another matter as the thorns don't put them off and they can completely  strip a bush within days. Apples I never net and the blackbirds only go for the windfalls.

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Re: fruit trees
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2013, 12:38 »
so is it best to just call rodgers and talk with them as to what is good...since i need it for the aptio i need max 180cm tall or dwarf shoudl do fine....are they good at answering questions and providing suppport etc

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Lincolnshire Floyd

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2013, 13:53 »
so is it best to just call rodgers and talk with them as to what is good...since i need it for the aptio i need max 180cm tall or dwarf shoudl do fine....are they good at answering questions and providing suppport etc

I've always found them very helpful and they are willing to talk to you. They have an online catalogue which you can view and you will then see the range of the English apples they supply. They are specialists in heritage varieties and I know their extensive choice can be daunting, so yes by all means talk to them and get as much advice as you can.
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Re: fruit trees
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2013, 14:20 »
thanks...i love the ida of doing some heritage apples....something rare sounds wonderful.....

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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2013, 15:52 »
Just to join in the plugging of heritage collections, I've had lovely service from Brogdale in Kent, which hosts the national fruit collection.

Some of the trees they grow are here: http://www.brogdaleonline.co.uk/pdfs/Heritage_apple.pdf though there are lots more and in patio or trained varieties, or they will graft to order.

They are incredibly patient and will go through all your requirements with you.

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Re: fruit trees
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 12:17 »
I've bought, quite recently, 5 fruit trees (all dwarf root stock) in an offer from "Garden bargains"  The pear and apple have been planted in the plot ready to go for it next season.  The Cherry, plum and a second apple have been planted into big planters in the garden.  My question is, what do I do with them over winter?  Will they require to be covered or will they be hardy enough to live through it?

Thanks in advance. :)

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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 13:30 »
They should be alright - after all, nurseries where they grow them in pots ready for sale won't be doing anything special.  However, you could perhaps insulate the pot with say bubble wrap/straw after leaf fall in autumn and they have gone dormant to protect the roots from extreme cold (in the ground, these would be protected by surrounding soil but in a pot are probably more vulnerable)

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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 14:03 »
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