Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Chatting => Design and Construction => Topic started by: Calou on November 22, 2007, 08:31
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I'm getting ready to erect my shed but am a little confused by all the sand thats on offer. Should I use builders, sharp or soft or are they one in the same when it comes to this sort of thing? And..............how many bags would I need for an 8x4? Any advice would be appreciated thanks.
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I'm no builder Calou but here goes depends what you are you are using it for:
Bulder's sand when mixed with cement makes mortar etc for laying bricks etc, sharp sand when mixed with cement makes like a fine concrete for laying slabs on screeding etc usual mix is about 4 sand 1 cement
As for quantities depends again on what you are doing with it your builders merchant diy store should know.
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Richy, I want to use it for making the groung level before I lay the slabs to sit the shed on :roll: I'm useless at this sort of thing, can't even explain myself clearly :lol:
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Are you building a concrete shelter now, just in case? :lol: :lol:
Not much help, I know. :roll: :lol:
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Was lucky to pick up a free shed from freecycle (don't ya just love the word free) just needed somewhere to have a cuppa so it's ideal, all I gotta do now is put it up! ....................Straight! :D
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Can't you just get ready mixes, whereby you just add water?
Am I making that up? :?
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Richy, I want to use it for making the groung level before I lay the slabs to sit the shed on
I'd call that screeding and any old sand will do for that. Cheapest.
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I used builder's sand - actually, I used the cheapest sand I could get, it's only for levelling. the other sands appear to be for decoration/colour
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Oh, I'm with it now, I thought you were about to mix concrete, etc. :idea: :lol:
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Oh, I'm with it now, I thought you were about to mix concrete, etc. :idea: :lol:
Mix concrete :shock: :shock: :shock: But my nails Gobs!!
I'll go with the builders stuff then, thanks.
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hey up calou
what you need to do fix 2 tamp rails( 3x2 on its back)5' apart and 7' in length,make sure they are both at the same level,now fill in the middle with your sand and screed it off level,I would mix a bit of cement with it.all you do then is drop your slabs ontop give them a wee tap with a rubber mallet or you can use a bit of timber with a lump hammer just to settle them.
as for how much sand
you will need about 10 25kg bags of sharp sand and a bag of cement
plus 3 bits of 3x2 2 at 7' and one at 6'.
might sound a bit complicated but i understand it :roll: :wink:
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hey up calou
what you need to do fix 2 tamp rails( 3x2 on its back)5' apart and 7' in length,make sure they are both at the same level,now fill in the middle with your sand and screed it off level,I would mix a bit of cement with it.all you do then is drop your slabs ontop give them a wee tap with a rubber mallet or you can use a bit of timber with a lump hammer just to settle them.
as for how much sand
you will need about 10 25kg bags of sharp sand and a bag of cement
plus 3 bits of 3x2 2 at 7' and one at 6'.
might sound a bit complicated but i understand it :roll: :wink:
Actually Shaun so do I lol, you're very good at instructions, thanks for taking the time to explain. :)
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If you sand bed starts getting deep enough for rats to burrow into at the edges you could have a problem unless you use mortar around the perimeter, and if you are placing you shed on bearers it will make a ready made home for them unless you tack some mesh across the ends to seal it all up.
I have just had to wire up the hatches at the base of all 8 of my plastic composters to stop rats squeezing through the side and digging the contents out. Probably due to me dropping over 1,000 pounds of apple pulp in them, causing a slight bow in the front of the hatch.
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Well I better watch out for that David, never thought of providing a dwelling for the rats but thanks for telling me! :shock:
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its not screeding wg matey is base leveling sand and you want sharp sand .. its about £12 a half tonne and that will do ya 6x4 and stil have some left .place a layer 3 inch thick lay and level the slabs and then place ya shed on he next day. you may wana mix some 6 shovel sand to 2 cement to place around the edges of the slabs to finish them :wink:
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its not screeding wg matey
Aye it is. 2(b) below
screed n.
1. A long monotonous speech or piece of writing.
2.
a. A strip of wood, plaster, or metal placed on a wall or pavement as a guide for the even application of plaster or concrete.
b. A layer or strip of material used to level off a horizontal surface such as a floor.
c. A smooth final surface of a substance, such as concrete, applied to a floor.
Anyhow ... think you can swan back in here after a week AWOL & start picking on my posts !! :wink: :wink:
Good to have you back Munt - place isn't the same without ya
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such as concrete . :tongue2:
screed is also a mix of cement and sand .6 sand to 1 cement .its a dry mix and used to level the floor before tiling and carpeting this also is used on top of a concrete subbase screed :lol: :lol: