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Chatting => Design and Construction => Topic started by: new_2_veg on October 21, 2007, 11:50

Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on October 21, 2007, 11:50: im now in the prosess of starting to dig in the posts for my blackberry growing frame / wire system.

im still wondering if i would be better using trellis (6' x 6') rather than wires.

i will post some pics of progress later today depending how i get on

all ideas are welcome

thanks

nathan
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: muntjac on October 21, 2007, 14:44: you cant treat the trellis if its covered in brambles ,wires simpler and more airy .... trellis dont werk for me :wink:
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on October 21, 2007, 16:56: i was a little unsure myself, i had to trellis pannels here spare thats what i was thinking, i was thinking of washing line rather than fencing wire because of the cost

nathan
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: WG. on October 21, 2007, 17:20: Quote from: "new_2_veg"
cost
plain fencing wire is very cheap
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on October 21, 2007, 20:28: any ideas where from wg?

i could only find rolls about 60.00

thanks

n2v
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: WG. on October 21, 2007, 21:05: Any industrial supplies or farmer's supplies depot.

I just Googled ... http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/pages/products/timber_prod_det.aspx?tpc=AR&fmc=BO&fnc=BI has 5kg for £10.90 + VAT
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: WG. on October 21, 2007, 21:22: Quote from: "WG."
Any industrial supplies or farmer's supplies depot.

I just Googled ... http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/pages/products/timber_prod_det.aspx?tpc=AR&fmc=BO&fnc=BI has 5kg for £10.90 + VAT

I agree with munty BTW - a trellis would be a pain (and would block too much light)
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on October 21, 2007, 21:22: thanks wg

i was looking for hours and couldnt find anything :oops:
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on November 08, 2007, 16:18: well ive got 3 posts in and got it all wired up, ive just got to finnish off by putting 2 braces on top stop it folding up so to speak!

i used washing line in the end but only because im tight and it was going cheap at the wholesalers :oops:

i8ve spaced the wires out at 8" apart

as soon as i get my camera back from my good mate dave i will get some photos

nathan
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: David. on November 08, 2007, 16:37: Rolls of galv. or plastic coated wire are cheapest at Wilkos (but they were all sold off at 75% off a week or so ago to make room for Christmas stock).

Fencing straining wire is really expensive and I only buy it a car boots to use cut and bent into "U" shapes to pin down polythene dpm sheeting.

For loganberry (blackberries are free from the hedges - picked nearly 200 lbs this year) supports I use Rylock mesh (obtained free) double height (2m) between posts.
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: shaun on November 08, 2007, 19:05: Quote from: "David."
For loganberry (blackberries are free from the hedges - picked nearly 200 lbs this year) supports I use Rylock mesh (obtained free) double height (2m) between posts.

agree there david,rylock(sheep netting) has a 100 uses around the plot
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: David. on November 08, 2007, 19:55: Quote from: "shaun"
agree there david,rylock(sheep netting) has a 100 uses around the plot

Also great used horizontally (and raised in increments up vertical posts as plants grow) to support tall plants grown through it, or even to allow cucumbers to scramble up though your sweetcorn.
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: shaun on November 08, 2007, 20:00: great for over your peas and broad beans,you could use it for runner beans
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: David. on November 09, 2007, 15:48: As I've got hundreds of metres of it, I'm devising a system of treated timber posts set in the ground and projecting 300mm, which have either 1.2m or 2m high removable vertical posts bolted to them (or nothing for crop rotation purposes), so the mesh can be used vertically either 1 or 2m high, or horizontally using parallel rows of 1.2m high vertical posts.
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on November 10, 2007, 15:26: been out there today and done a bit but my mum came round so stoped the work!

ive started to edge the growing area and in front of my raspberrys with some pallet slats, ive used the bearers for the posts/pegs into the ground.

it works realy well and has tidyed up a treat! i will soon be all finnished and have it just hoe i want it :D
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: David. on November 11, 2007, 11:52: Quote from: "new_2_veg"
I've started to edge the growing area and in front of my raspberrys with some pallet slats ................soon be all finnished and have it just hoe i want it :D

Mind those raspberry roots with your hoe as they grow really close to the surface.
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on November 11, 2007, 13:02: thats another reason why i wanted them sectioned off the other side of my wooden edging so i can hand weed

nathan
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: David. on November 12, 2007, 08:49: Sorry, I thought it sounded a bit like mine - I put them in a raised bed, but they were ungrateful and decided to send nearly all their roots outside of it just under the surface of the ground.
Title: growing frame system for blackberrys
Post by: new_2_veg on November 12, 2007, 14:08: ah got you

i think ive done the right thing but time with tell