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Title: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 19, 2013, 23:12
Today the good news is a mum Podenco dog and her pups were rescued from living in the scorching sun, the bad news is she has 8 pups!!
Another dog was found today, a Mastin pup, about 3 months old, the bad news is her eye was seriously swollen, she was taken straight to the vet, her eye is past saving, it is being removed.  Poor little girl :ohmy:

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: GrannieAnnie on July 19, 2013, 23:15
Awww Pamela, such a shame!  Hope they all manage to find new homes!
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Trillium on July 20, 2013, 02:52
I can only echo that  :(
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: ANHBUC on July 20, 2013, 10:12
When the economy is so bad it is a sad result that some animals will suffer.  I hope things start to improve, it must be so heart breaking for you to witness Pamela.  :(
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 20, 2013, 18:33
There was another young dog left outside the refuge this morning, we have absolutely no more space to put another dog until we can have a fundraising event to get money towards new kennels.  It will get worse as people are going on holiday so dump their dogs on to the street. A few weeks ago 6 pups, just hours old were left in a plastic tub, in full sun, at the refuge gate!  We had to call the vet to put them to sleep. They were not in good condition.  We have just under 40 dogs at the refuge, not counting yesterdays dogs, plus about about 30 being fostered. If only people would sterilise their dogs/cats it would go a long way to helping the animal situation. We are trying to get all the dogs done at the refuge, but more dogs keep coming, naturally in sterilised :mad: :mad:.  It is law for dogs to be microchipped here, but very few abandoned/lost dogs are chipped. It costs the refuge around 400€ a month for food, not that many locals care, they want us to take dogs but never think of the cost to us.
Some days I wish I did not know about the refuge!

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 20, 2013, 18:53
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/IMG-20130719-WA0008.jpg)

This is the little girl (who will end up a big girl) who has lost her eye :( :mad: 

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Springlands on July 20, 2013, 22:51
Pamela - she has such a sad face - you can see that she has had a difficult start in life. I hope that she gets rehomed.

I really admire what you are doing at the refuge - just remember that you are making a difference. 
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: spottymint on July 21, 2013, 09:36
Good luck with the rehoming & remember each animal you help, makes a big difference.

You can see the abused animals, really appreciate, all you hard work.  :)
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 21, 2013, 13:39
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/IMG-20130721-WA0001.jpg)

A father of one of the volunteers found these pups in a box today, left at the gates of the co-operative (for olives  not the supermarket!)  there were 2 dead in with them.  They are Bodeguero dogs, good for catching rats. 

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: ANHBUC on July 21, 2013, 16:20
Good job you are not over here Pamela as I think we would all be rehoming your dogs and puppies.   ::) :lol:
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Thrift on July 21, 2013, 16:58
It is just heart breaking - those poor dogs are so lucky there are people like you to take them in.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: BobE on July 21, 2013, 17:20
This thread is so very sad.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Springlands on July 21, 2013, 17:22
Pamela - you have had such a rough week - you must be wondering what is going to happen next. It is just a shame that there is not a neutering programme available.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: BobE on July 21, 2013, 17:23
Olive is this down to the massive recesion  and unemployment in Spain.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 21, 2013, 18:30
The refuges in Spain have been full to overflowing for years, I think it is just down to the mentality of not wasting money on animals.  We have a vet come to the refuge every week, she sterilises a dog a week, or we aim for a dog a week. She charges us around 40-60€ depending on the dog size. Normally a vet would charge 120€ for a small dog, so I can understand why people are not getting their dogs sterilised, females are more, our vet charges around 60€-90€ depending on the female size.
I wonder what I did before I joined the refuge! Most of the volunteers are female, for some reason we do not have many men!! Jim went along once, when I was alone, to help me. He did not enjoy the experience, but he helps other ways, like agreeing to Charlie, our Labrador, I came home with him one day,  :ohmy: then Timón staying after being hurt and now Tibet!!. Plus our 2 cats!

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: BobE on July 21, 2013, 18:56
Men don't like being in situations that they can't fix.  He like me would find it to sad, with nothing that we could do, so look away, it hurts less.  Women are stronger which is why they make the best nurses.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 21, 2013, 18:59
Or pooper scoopers :lol:

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: compostqueen on July 22, 2013, 10:12
The pups look like Jack Russells and they'd be rehomed over here very quickly.  I hope yours all find new homes very soon  :)

The poor pup with the poorly eye looks so sad.  Just think what the future of these dogs would be without such kind people as you. They need you so don't give up on them  :)  If your husband supports your work and doesn't mind the house being turned into an animal hospital then at least he's being helpful and supportive :)

Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 22, 2013, 10:23
Last night Tibet was up on our bed sleeping between us.....he is being fostered, he us being fostered, I must keep telling myself that!

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: compostqueen on July 22, 2013, 23:22
  :D

Aw bless  :)
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 24, 2013, 15:36
Good news from the refuge-  Bretona our Spaniel is being fostered with a view to adopt :D  She has been at the refuge longer than I have (so over a year)
A man was interested in her, but he was a hunter and he said if she was no good he would return her! So he did not get her. These people want her as a family pet.  We have a lovely soft Pit Bull,  some gypsies came a little while ago to see the Pit Bull (they did not ask about any dogs, just the Pit Bull, so how they knew about him we did not know) The lady suspected they wanted him as a ´bait dog´ for fighting- so they did not get a foot inside the refuge!
He was thrown over the fence one Saturday night, he was a young pup, his ears had been hacked off. He is a gentle natured dog, even after all he has been through.  He is never happier than when sitting in the big bath full of water  :lol: :lol: 
We just need to find a home for a Staffy dog we have, she was abandoned in the town,she is as daft as a brush too, but because of her strength she is kept in a stable on her own, which is a shame as she loves the other dogs! She does get to play with Bartolo, a Mastin/German SHepherd cross. They are great pals, but Bartolo does not like anyone near his food,so they cannot share a stable, as Peppa does not eat her food fast and Bartolo would scoff his down and then eat hers or bite her if she went near to his food!  He had been adopted, but the people ill-treated him, so he was rescued again.  They had adopted another dog too, Rogelia, a small pug sized dog, she had according to the people, gone to live with their family in Barcelona.  The family was spoken to, the dog had never been there.  When the refuge folk went back with the local police to collect Bartolo they asked again about Rogelia, she had died they said, she had been ill.    2 weeks or so later Rogelia was found walking in the street by the school, she had been seen there for a week or so by some people.  So much for being dead/in Barcelona.  A man came to the refuge yesterday to look at some small dogs, they liked the look of Rogelia, so fingers crossed she gets a happy ending, she deserves it!

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: BobE on July 24, 2013, 15:40
Im always a bit scared to open this thread.
Thanks for the update Olive.
How can somebody be that cruel the would cut ears off.  I'd do it back to them.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 24, 2013, 16:18
Having the ears cut off makes it a nuisance to try to check for ticks in the ears, there is nothing to hold on to!

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: BobE on July 24, 2013, 16:20
Nobody knows what ears are for anyway, even ours.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Springlands on July 24, 2013, 16:25
Pamela - it is so lovely to hear some good news from the refuge.  :)  You must be so pleased to know that some of the dogs are going to be re-homed.  :)
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 24, 2013, 17:37
We get all excited when a new home is found :happy: and sad if we fall inlove with the dog :happy:

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: devonbarmygardener on July 25, 2013, 16:23
People can be so cruel to animals - I mean, why hack a dogs ears off? :ohmy: What does that achieve other than pain and suffering.

You do an admirable job Pamela ;) :)
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: BobE on July 25, 2013, 17:11
I hope that "What goes around, comes around"
Their turn will come.
Bob
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: ANHBUC on July 25, 2013, 21:33
People can be so cruel to animals - I mean, why hack a dogs ears off? :ohmy: What does that achieve other than pain and suffering.

You do an admirable job Pamela ;) :)

For some breeds it is to stop them being ripped off by things like wolves when they are guarding flocks (Kate Humble Wild Shepherdess).  I can only imagine that in Spain the dogs are used to dig out badgers so it could be to save the dogs ears being attacked.   :(
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: BobE on July 25, 2013, 21:35
Jeez.!!
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: devonbarmygardener on July 25, 2013, 21:36
People can be so cruel to animals - I mean, why hack a dogs ears off? :ohmy: What does that achieve other than pain and suffering.

You do an admirable job Pamela ;) :)

For some breeds it is to stop them being ripped off by things like wolves when they are guarding flocks (Kate Humble Wild Shepherdess).  I can only imagine that in Spain the dogs are used to dig out badgers so it could be to save the dogs ears being attacked.   :(

 :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
That is NOT good!
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: ANHBUC on July 25, 2013, 21:43
People can be so cruel to animals - I mean, why hack a dogs ears off? :ohmy: What does that achieve other than pain and suffering.

You do an admirable job Pamela ;) :)

For some breeds it is to stop them being ripped off by things like wolves when they are guarding flocks (Kate Humble Wild Shepherdess).  I can only imagine that in Spain the dogs are used to dig out badgers so it could be to save the dogs ears being attacked.   :(

 :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
That is NOT good!

It is for the dogs that are guarding livestock as injury would end in a slow and painful death if a wolf ripped an ear off.  It is not ideal but a necessary evil in areas where people are lucky to live into their 40's but look in their 70's.  :( No excuse at all when it is for sport.   >:(
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Sparkyrog on July 25, 2013, 23:19
It was also the reason for a lot of tail docking  :(
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on July 26, 2013, 07:30
A man asked me if I wanted a pup, I sad sorry I had 2 dogs, I did not want more (5 dogs now, dammed refuge!!). He said a friend of his wanted a pup, but the friend would dock the pups tail, so he would not let the friend take a pup.  It is illegal to dock tails, but it still happens. 

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Sparkyrog on July 26, 2013, 08:15
I think "hope" it is completely banned now !
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Goosegirl on August 16, 2013, 12:34
OMG.  :ohmy: You have GG's eyes smarting with tears now. It doesn't help that I've just got Celine Dion singing "Think Twice" on my PC. Sparkyrog - hope is NEVER banned whilst we still have people like Oliveview and her helpers who care. So not dissing you and I know what you mean, just where there is life, there is hope.  Whilst we cannot save every creature that comes into our lives, that money is so tight for many animal refuges, and there are times when the kindest thing to do is put them gently to sleep, It seems to me that, despite what they've been through, the sheer will for some to survive against all the odds and yet to still show trust in humans, is a wonder. I truly believe that some animals are meant to make it for a reason; maybe to teach us about resiliance, perseverance, overcoming life's obstacles, giving out even if you don't always get it back and, most of all, about real love - 'cos that's what animals instinctively know, respond to, and then we get it back in spades and go on. I want to say more, but I don't know the words. GG would send you a big yellow hug stretchy-thingy - but she doesn't know how to do it on here!
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Trillium on August 16, 2013, 14:22
I know exactly what you mean, goosegirl. Mankind thinks he/she's at the top of the food chain and the smartest of all creatures, but in reality there are many humbler creatures that are wiser, kinder and more caring than mankind can ever be. We call it humanity but so many humans lack it.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Yorkie on August 16, 2013, 16:05
I think you've misread sparkyrog's post, GG.

My reading of his text is that he thinks or hopes that tail docking is banned - hence the inclusion of the word "it".

Not that hope itself is banned.
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Sparkyrog on August 16, 2013, 16:29
Quite right Yorkie  :)
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Goosegirl on August 17, 2013, 11:23
Sorry sparkyrog - GG's got it wrong again! "Should have gone to whatsit's" is becoming a regular excuse for me; trouble is, I've  just been! :unsure: Nice reply Trillium!  ;)
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: Oliveview on August 17, 2013, 13:43
I was told last night that Rocky, the earless (is that a word?!) Pitbull might possibly have a family interested in him. He is a great dog, he deserves a nice home. He has never shown any aggression to any of us, not like Pumba, a pint sized moody dog :lol: as the saying goes, when he is good he is very, very good, when he is bad he is horrid :lol:

We did think of abandoning him outside the gate of the family who adopted the 3 refuge dogs, but they have seen him, so would know where Pumba came from  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pamela
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: ANHBUC on August 17, 2013, 14:45
 :lol:  It probably would have worked. 
Title: Re: When days get bad at the refuge, they get bad
Post by: shoozie on August 17, 2013, 21:56
Fingers crossed for Rocky  :)