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Title: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: AlaninCarlisle on October 08, 2021, 16:06


I have ten mature apple trees. God knows why I planted so many all those years ago. I love apples either raw or cooked and have stewed apple with my breakfast most mornings. When I first started cropping them thirty odd years ago, giving away the surplus was easy, most people loved apples and ocasionally kids used to try and pinch them. Now, they seem totally out of favour and apart from those I eat and the ones I give to next doors pigs, they just fall and rot away.

Is this just North Cumbria or have apples lost there appeal elsewhere?
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Lardman on October 08, 2021, 17:16
I think they've gone the way of the tomato. So much tasteless wet pap churned out by the supermarket all year round that people just don't value them anymore, if it's not shiny and red and just full of juice.  They're still very much appreciated here (but then I grow proper varieties  ;) ) and if it makes you feel any better I had a very nice egremont russet for lunch  :tongue2:
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: rowlandwells on October 08, 2021, 17:28
English apples are still the best you can buy I get mad when I look for a good eating apple in the super market to find there not English  :mad:

there are quite a few people put apples outside the gate here free to those who want them there soon snapped up to

I think today people don't know how to cook apples today or its just to much trouble to cook apples when they can go to the supermarket get an apple pie or apple strudel and it ready to serve in 20 minuets served with ready made custard

unfortunately its the sign of the times these days what's the best thing on the table well a home made apple pie of cause with some proper custard or fresh cream or a nice English apple cut up raw after dinner no wonder apple orchards are a thing of the past

we went to a cider maker in Northamptonshire last week who had a very large orchard several hundred apple trees lovely red apples all to be hand picked the following week

needless to say we had to sample many ciders on tap talk about apples they wasn't out of fashion that day its was apple nectar we bought a few bottles home to remind us of that lovely visit and we may need to top up when they run out  as you do :D :D

Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: GraciesGran on October 08, 2021, 18:20
I have become great friends with a lady near us who has access to an orchard.  Both cooking and eating apples, cookers now frozen eaters in those stacking trays that mushroom s come in.

Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: snowdrops on October 08, 2021, 19:13
I wish I lived nearer Alan, I’d snap them up, I love English apples. I never saw any English discovery this year :unsure: I so look forward to them every year  :)
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: perris on October 09, 2021, 08:42
this recently started up in Swansea - terrific idea, could be implemented elsewhere
Sweet Pickings ? Ensuring nature's abundance of fruit does not go to waste (http://sweetpickings.org/)
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: rowlandwells on October 09, 2021, 18:07
sounds good to me Perris
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Goosegirl on October 10, 2021, 12:42
I heard that in Kent they've uprooted all the Bramleys and Cox's as they're not wanted. DER? Fortunately we were down in Oxfordshire last week and got three carrier bags full of Bramleys for making apple sauce as they're no better variety for it.
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Lardman on October 10, 2021, 13:04
Bramleys for making apple sauce as they're no better variety for it.
I have a tree I've grafted from an old tree (40-50 years), an unknown tip bearing biannual cooker on local waste ground that would disagree  :nowink: .
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: snowdrops on October 10, 2021, 16:51
Sainsbury’s had 2 varieties of English apples in on Friday, I bought both varieties, unfortunately I’ve thrown the bags away 1 was a Braeburn I think & the other was unknown to me but I tried that 1 today & it was lovely, so I’m going to need to find out what it was  :nowink:
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: AlaninCarlisle on October 11, 2021, 10:27
In my opinion, there is nothing tastier than Egremont Russets. They're great keepers as well so I'll be having them stewed with my breakfast every morning until Christmas at the earliest
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Growster... on October 11, 2021, 12:45
Near here (Marden), there's a lovely farm that sells several old faves, and we need to get over there sharpish, as at a quid a decent sized bag, they're fantastic value!
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Lardman on October 20, 2021, 14:12
One of note for the american style apple lover. I've just harvested the first of my sweet sixteen apples and they're very nice indeed if you like your apples with a fresh, crisp/crunchy, juicy , sweet flavour with the occasional hint of candy and raspberry, I imaging children would really like them.

Nothing left on the kidds orange red this year though, tufty and his mates have taken them all  :mad:  :( In fact most of the trees have been stripped this year, but I notice they haven't touched the Jonagold or Gala, make of that what you will.  ::)
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: mumofstig on October 20, 2021, 16:21
but I notice they haven't touched the Jonagold or Gala, make of that what you will.  ::)
They'll just be leaving them for 'ron...
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Debz on October 21, 2021, 08:06
Wish we lived closer, we'd love to help you eat the apples.  We've visited a local orchard for the last two years.  They offer a juice experience.  You pick and help make the juice and take it home but you can try any of the apples in the orchard as you are picking and my kids love it.
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Subversive_plot on October 24, 2021, 19:27
There are US apple varieties that I truly miss.  Arkansas Black is a very deep dark red, crisp and tart.  You can find the trees at nurseries if you look, but the apples are never sold here anymore.  Stayman Winesap is another, fantastic baked, fried or in pie, but also great fresh.  I suspect these fell out of favor because of appearance.  The Arkansas Black skin is, well, VERY dark, almost to the color of a plum, and dull (nevermind that it is wonderful to eat).  The Stayman is also not picture perfect, as there is usually russeting near the stem. 

Other apples from when I was a kid are McIntosh (still around), true Johnathan is now relatively rare, but an old favorite.  The "Johnagold" is a poor substitute.  "Red Delicious" is still around, but I have no idea why, unless you like an attractive but mealy, tasteless to slightly bitter apple. Some of the new apples are OK, but not necessarily memorable.
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Goosegirl on October 27, 2021, 13:16
Stayman Winesap. I'm sure I went to junior school with him. He once tried to give me a kiss so I slapped him over his head with a rolled-up Beano comic. :lol:
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: snowdrops on October 27, 2021, 13:26
 :lol:GG, you are a one  :)
Zari is the name of the lovely apple from Sainsbury’s I bought that are British grown, really tasty & so far they’ve had them every week in packs of 4 so last week I bought 3 packs!
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: mumofstig on October 27, 2021, 13:43
On my last Trashco order there were 4 Bramley apples. I made a pie with some yesterday and the filling tastes of nothing at all, just a hint from the lemon juice I added.
 So I really don't think they were Bramleys at all.....
Title: Re: Apples, out of fashion or what?
Post by: Lardman on October 27, 2021, 21:51
Shop bought MoS - never as nice as the real thing. Try lobbing an desert apple in there too for the next one, it may improve things a little.