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« on: May 21, 2007, 20:48 »
how is the way to break up clay have dug and put mushroom compost in any more i can do before i break my back

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 20:53 »
Lots of manure and also gypsum.

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 20:53 »
Hard work  :D  keep adding as much organic matter as possible add grit if you can afford to, rough dig Oct time and let jack frost do his work add more manure, and you can lime, (but don't lime the manure), this will help make the small particles of clay stick together and create better soil.

Clay is hard work but it is generally the most fertile of soils holding lots of trace minerals etc.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 20:58 »
[what is gypsum where do you get it and how do you use it sorry to sound thick this is all new to me

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quote="whisky_golf"]Lots of manure and also gypsum.[/quote]
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 21:00 »
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Hard work  :D  keep adding as much organic matter as possible add grit if you can afford to, rough dig Oct time and let jack frost do his work add more manure, and you can lime, (but don't lime the manure), this will help make the small particles of clay stick together and create better soil.

Clay is hard work but it is generally the most fertile of soils holding lots of trace minerals etc.
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thanks for your thoughts didnt really think there was an easy way :cry:

chers anyway gth

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 21:07 »
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what is gypsum where do you get it and how do you use it


Calcium sulphate : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsum

Spread it and dig or rotavate in.  It can be applied at the same time as manure.  Sold in garden centres as Claybreaker but I suggest you try agric or hortic wholesalers for a large order.

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 21:17 »
Clay is great for veg, but as said before very hard woek. It may take a few seasons but its worth it , you'll win.

We grow on clay soil and have found that if trenches a spade or preferably two deep are dug in autumn and any greenstuff (other than woody twigs and the like) are put in plus torn newspaper and card, veg peelings,grass cuttings ,layered then covered with soil there is improvement in drainage.

Also once the soil is prepared, covering it with black plastic protects it from the drying effect of winds and this helps to stop a hard crust developing, as often happens with rain followed by sunon clay soil.

We have also sown green manure plants overwinter to protect the soil from hard capping.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 21:36 »
I remember when coal mines were common miners used to carry colliery waste or slack as it was called to their allotments to help break down the clay.  I guess this had a high gypsum content.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 12:17 »
Hi

I have the same problem - we bought loads of manure but it was really slow to rot down so can't put it down yet.

In the meantime we have dug and mattocked the larger particles of soil six times now, added sand, and added some lime (as hoping to put cabbages in) and it is miles better.

best of luck
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 13:32 »
After about 10 - 15 years of adding organic material you won't need a sledgehammer and crowbar to get your leeks in.

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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2007, 17:09 »
Calcium sulphate : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsum

thanks wg will be going out to source some

cheers gth


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