Hello heard this in an agricultural dealers Monday a farmer asks for a gate how wide do you want the gate asked the assistant,farmers reply was to fit the oile(hole) how bigs the hole asked the assistant fits the gate says the farmer,how wide do you want it says the assistant the farmer puts his arms out and says this wide and add 2 foot ,right says the assistant grabbing a tape measure that's 8 foot ,how many crooks do you want what says the farmer crooks to hang it on says the assistant,don't do them says the farmer a bit of hairy willy band (baler twine) is sufficient jezza