New allotment rules - ponds allowed!

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New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« on: November 09, 2018, 10:15 »
An odd question perhaps, but the society has amended its rules and now allows for a small shallow pond.

Aside from the obvious frog/newtspawn potential for the kids, would there be anything we could grow in stagnant watwr that would be safe to eat?!

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Re: New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 11:33 »
Water cress might grow in what would not be ideal conditions for it, but it wouldn't be safe to eat unless cooked thoroughly (not checked but I bet there aren't many recipes for cooked water cress!  :unsure:)

Can't think of anything else edible - best to just grow aquatic plants to help keep the water clear and healthy (might have to be marginal types rather than submerged because I'm guessing the depth permitted will be minimal on safety grounds.)
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Re: New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 12:08 »
Water cress might grow in what would not be ideal conditions for it, but it wouldn't be safe to eat unless cooked thoroughly (not checked but I bet there aren't many recipes for cooked water cress!  :unsure:)

Can't think of anything else edible - best to just grow aquatic plants to help keep the water clear and healthy (might have to be marginal types rather than submerged because I'm guessing the depth permitted will be minimal on safety grounds.)

Thanks, yeah I kind of thought as much... the max size allowed is 2sq m with a max depth of 50cm, so I guess, a couple of plants, spawn and snails!


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Re: New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 13:31 »
Water cress might grow in what would not be ideal conditions for it, but it wouldn't be safe to eat unless cooked thoroughly (not checked but I bet there aren't many recipes for cooked water cress!  :unsure:)

Can't think of anything else edible - best to just grow aquatic plants to help keep the water clear and healthy (might have to be marginal types rather than submerged because I'm guessing the depth permitted will be minimal on safety grounds.)

Thanks, yeah I kind of thought as much... the max size allowed is 2sq m with a max depth of 50cm, so I guess, a couple of plants, spawn and snails!
I donít like to be a killjoy, but water and children have always been a fear of mine. 50 cm is deep enough to drown in, so I would also want to see the ponds fenced somehow. Iím glad there are no ponds on our allotment site.

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Re: New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 17:02 »
I donít like to be a killjoy, but water and children have always been a fear of mine. 50 cm is deep enough to drown in, so I would also want to see the ponds fenced somehow. Iím glad there are no ponds on our allotment site.

You can easily drown in 2" (5cm) of water so fencing off all 'dangerous' water becomes somewhat difficult. To play devil's advocate, should water butts also be fenced off? Children should be closely supervised whenever they are on an allotment site whether there are ponds or not given the myriad of potential dangers lurking.

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Re: New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 17:28 »
My dads giving me a small plastic pond, only little and nowhere near the 50cm limit, I was going to peg down a piece of 10mm metal meshover the top with spaces for the froggies to enter and leave. The idea is that when we're all together the mesh can come off so the boys can have a look in and see whats going on, then go back on after.

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Re: New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 18:10 »
Good plan - possibly not necessary with a very shallow pond, but not a bad idea to provide some sort of ramp, which could just be pebbles or pieces of brick, to help the frogs climb out of the pond (with any luck in spring they might be too, um, weary to jump out!  8))

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Re: New allotment rules - ponds allowed!
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2018, 19:58 »
Good plan - possibly not necessary with a very shallow pond, but not a bad idea to provide some sort of ramp, which could just be pebbles or pieces of brick, to help the frogs climb out of the pond (with any luck in spring they might be too, um, weary to jump out!  8))

A ramp is a good idea to make it possible for any small animal or bird that inadvertently (and almost certainly will!) find their way into the water to get back out.



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