Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc

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fallen angel

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Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« on: June 15, 2015, 13:25 »
Ok I have rhubarb and want to make wine, every recipe I see is different and now I am getting confused as I need to add yeast and nutrient and the recipes I have seen have them as a seperate thing but I have seen a combo of the two so what do I buy? I'm sorry this probably seems like a stupid question but My brain is not functioning well today (I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and suffer terribly with brain fog).

I have in my basket
camden tablets
Pectolase ( Pectic Enzyme )100g
Yeast Nutrient 100g
Precipitated Chalk 50g (Calcium Carbonate)
Youngs Sparkling Wine Yeast

I was hoping to do 2 batches one with sparkling/champagne yeast one with normal.

To be honest the more I read the more confused I become and I just want to get it started :-)

Many thanks.

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2015, 14:12 »
I would buy the nutrient and yeast separately as you have in your shopping basket. 

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2015, 14:13 »
Thank you :-)

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2015, 14:24 »
Do I need tannin?

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2015, 14:47 »
It wouldn't hurt.  Many recipes call for strong black tea, which adds the tannin, rather than powder.

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2015, 14:54 »
I think this is the least complicated recipe I have found but there is no mention of precipitation chalk, tannin or camden tablets? Should I adapt this recipe or just do as he did?

http://bensadventuresinwinemaking.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/rhubarb-wine-2014-making-of.html

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2015, 15:25 »
I've done successful rhubarb wine quite a few times - I use tea bags for tannin and have never bothered with precipitation chalk (which is used to reduce acidity - rhubarb leaves are highly acidic) nor campden tablets nor nutrient. Your mileage may vary.
Try not to let it drive you mad. Things like campden tablets and precipitation chalk may improve your chances of success or make certain things easier... I personally try to do things as simply as possible

(Edited to add:) If you look at his latest  http://bensadventuresinwinemaking.blogspot.co.uk/ for rhubarb and elderflower he says "I put in one teaspoon of nutrient and tannin (and possibly pectolase, but I don't remember)" so its possible that he did the same for the straight rhubarb wine and forgot to mention it.

I'd suggest using Ben's recipe and adapting as you see fit.

Humans were brewing beer and making wine long before the science behind it all was understood. 

Good luck,

Hi hic,
Balders
« Last Edit: June 15, 2015, 15:58 by Baldy »

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2015, 21:46 »
Thank you :-) I will buy the bare minimum then and see how I go :-)

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2015, 22:21 »
Health and Safety notice
Maybe not well worded earlier but...

Rhubarb leaves are very acidic (poisonous) - shouldn't be put into a wine brew... (maybe? used as a non-EU approved weed killer but that's a different matter)

Hic Hic,
Balders

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2015, 12:53 »
I would definitely add tannin in some form (black tea or powdered).  Personally I would always add some nutrient as well to prevent a stuck ferment.  There should be no need for pectolase as rhubarb contains little pectin. 

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2015, 20:36 »
yeast nutrient means nutrient for yeast, so a wine yeast is needed as well,I use Ebay.

my rhubarb wine just uses sugar, water, yeast and yeast nutrient.

Recommend First Steps in Winemaking C J J Berry, try ebay or Abebooks

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2015, 21:04 »
Health and Safety notice
Maybe not well worded earlier but...

Rhubarb leaves are very acidic (poisonous) - shouldn't be put into a wine brew... (maybe? used as a non-EU approved weed killer but that's a different matter)

Hic Hic,
Balders
Thought it was insecticide  :wub:
I cook therefore I grow

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2015, 19:11 »
[]Thought it was insecticide  :wub:

Not once its gone through my still...   ;)

Hic hic,
Balders

(yes - I meant a non-EU-approved insecticide... meh)  :(

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2015, 16:33 »
Grinling wine yeast is on the list I chose a sparkling one  :)

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Re: Slowly going insane over yeast/nutrients etc
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2015, 13:45 »
Not tried a sparkling yet as concerned it might explode...probably won't!!! Sometimes forget to add a campden tablet though, so a slight fizz.



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