Rat Free Composting?

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adri123

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Rat Free Composting?
« on: November 18, 2014, 12:34 »
Hi

I've asked about this before I'm sure but I want to find the best way to compost without encouraging rats.  Where I'd be wanting to compost would be a prime location for them if given any encouragement. 

I've looked at tumble composters as an option but not all reviews of them are good. 

Anyone?

TIA

Adri

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 12:38 »
I have seen first-hand a small-height, continuous breeze-block  brick wall around the compost heap work well. Rats and mice tend to scurry along walls and so traps were set there also.
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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 13:31 »
I put chicken wire under mine but I'd agree that brick built with no tunelling options probably the only solution. composters are apparently warm & cosy places for rats even if there's not too much attractive edibles

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 13:49 »
Certainly difficult as rats will happily climb up and dig down through the top of a heap if they want to.  :(

I found a very sharp, long pronged and long handled fork worked wonders when emptying the compost heap. Most of all you need to avoid putting any cooked food waste in the heap but even then they'll eat almost anything and love the warmth especially if it's dry-ish inside.  :mellow:

Turning and visiting the heap frequently can make them feel unsettled and less likely to take up residence.

Personally I detest the things.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 13:50 by Paul Plots »
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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 14:38 »
If chicken wire is used, I would suggest a very small hole indeed - and even then rats are known for biting through the wire if the treat on the other side is tempting enough.

A cheaper option to brick might be treated (pallet) wood with substantial stakes along its length and corners - although that, too, may be gnawed through.

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 15:16 »
We resorted to buying hotbins, not a cheap option but has solved the problem and the compost matures quicker than in our other bins.
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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 15:36 »
You're going to make a grown Yorkshire-man cry!

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 20:56 »
I never compost rats!😏

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 21:12 »
@comfreypatch. Are the hotbins any good? They don't have worms in them do they?


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barley

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2014, 05:40 »
we've had 2 rats already this autumn

bait caused their demise pretty sharply  :( I use slaymor - its always effective )

we live rural so its inevitable we get them coming in from the fields this time of year

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2014, 09:37 »
There seems to be a huge rise in the rat population this year. We spotted 3 rats at a park near us recently, another 3 in a park in Brum - never seen that before.

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2014, 11:29 »
I didn't realise there was a party conference in your area, WhiteRabbit!  :lol:

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2014, 17:07 »
Washing Tabs containers with Tom and Gerry mouse holes melted either end and Rentokil mouse and rate bait in the trays provided held in place by the lid with a soft brick on after seeing a Micky and a Roland in the last couple of weeks. 

As stated above I saw them running along the wall towards my leaf and compost bin so that's where the traps are. 
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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2014, 17:35 »
For the first time ever, I've seen rats on my allotment this year! I've seen evidence of them,they ate my sweetcorn in the greenhouse two seasons ago, but up until now I haven't actually seen them. I don't know if it's been the mild weather or what, but everybody on our site seems to have had rat problems this year. They managed to ruin all my beetroot by chewing round the top of every one! I must admit, I can't bring myself to use poisons on any living thing, so I'm doing my best to discourage them. I cleared out the manure heap, found a nest but no young 'uns, and I'm going to net as much as I can next year. I don't suppose I'll ever be rid of them but hopefully they'll not be so blatant.

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Re: Rat Free Composting?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2014, 11:12 »
Adri - what sort of compost bins are you thinking of doing? Dalek ones should be rat-proof and you can get them free from some councils too. If it's a wooden pallet one, then they will get in. We have a big hen and goose pen with vermin netting half-way up but have had the occasional rat dig below the netting that was well-buried at the bottom. You could use a fine welded mesh as chicken wire can be chewed over time.
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