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Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: jacnal on October 21, 2007, 19:36
8 hours!

I cut down every single bramble bush and boy, was that a tough battle! Got scratched and stung on my arms, hands, legs, and even back, those silly pests  :cry: ! And did you guys know that a bramble plant can grow from both ends? The very long branches rooted when they hit the ground  :shock:  :!:  So it's like a hoop with roots on both ends. I definitely I'm getting rid of all of them and planting a friendlier and tamer variety.

My purple sprouting broccoli and the calabrese (planted in one bed which I thought was big enough at the time) are growing so well. One of the calabrese plants is already producing a floret...

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa264/jacnal/PA160001.jpg)

And I've made a whole waterbutt full of nettle, comfrey and other assorted weeds tea ready for next year. Probably too soon, but hey! The kitchen grimores sack came in handy!

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa264/jacnal/PA120029.jpg)
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: muntjac on October 21, 2007, 19:51
brambles can be propagated from root cuttings by pegging down a fresh years branch .peg it where a leaf joint is if you find a cracking one growing wild  or in the local lord somerleyton's garden but i didnt tell ya that .did i  :wink:

 oh all berries can be done this way including rasps, logan ,tays
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 21, 2007, 19:57
she wants to get rid of! :roll: lol!
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: mkhenry on October 21, 2007, 20:02
When cutting back brambles etc you can save a lot of scratches by wearing plastic guards on your arms and legs.

Cut the top and bottom off 4 empty coca cola type 1L bottles and wear 2 of  them over your arms.Split 2 of the bottles and wear them over your lower legs.
You can wrap a strip of tape around them to keep them on.
Yes you may look a little odd,but it saves you getting torn up :wink: :lol:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: muntjac on October 21, 2007, 20:10
Quote from: "gobs"
she wants to get rid of! :roll: lol!


 maybe so ,but explaning why the roots broke out on the stems helps both those who dont know why and also those who may want to get new plants  :wink:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: mkhenry on October 21, 2007, 20:19
Quote from: "muntjac"
Quote from: "gobs"
she wants to get rid of! :roll: lol!


 maybe so ,but explaning why the roots broke out on the stems helps both those who dont know why and also those who may want to get new plants  :wink:


When responding to a posting sometimes the answer is not just a question of what to do next ,but also what else you can do.

Many people reading the question would also like to know more about the subject.


In effect you some times answer the unasked questions as well. :wink:

This is because although one person asked in the first place,many people  reading the answers want to know a great deal more than just yes or know.

So Munty was just filling in the blanks. :wink:  :lol:

Well done Munty.You answered and instucted in just a few words. 8)  :lol:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 21, 2007, 20:41
Quote from: "mkhenry"
When cutting back brambles etc you can save a lot of scratches by wearing plastic guards on your arms and legs.

Cut the top and bottom off 4 empty coca cola type 1L bottles and wear 2 of  them over your arms.Split 2 of the bottles and wear them over your lower legs.
You can wrap a strip of tape around them to keep them on.
Yes you may look a little odd,but it saves you getting torn up :wink: :lol:


I always thought this,and I cannot keep it any more, you should be in the showbiz, I'm serious, you would cut a fortune. The silly walks is nothing as compared. :wink:
Are you actually practicing this plastic bottle exercise yourself, if I may ask? :roll:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: mkhenry on October 21, 2007, 20:53
Quote from: "gobs"
Quote from: "mkhenry"
When cutting back brambles etc you can save a lot of scratches by wearing plastic guards on your arms and legs.

Cut the top and bottom off 4 empty coca cola type 1L bottles and wear 2 of  them over your arms.Split 2 of the bottles and wear them over your lower legs.
You can wrap a strip of tape around them to keep them on.
Yes you may look a little odd,but it saves you getting torn up :wink: :lol:


I always thought this,and I cannot keep it any more, you should be in the showbiz, I'm serious, you would cut a fortune. The silly walks is nothing as compared. :wink:
Are you actually practicing this plastic bottle exercise yourself, if I may ask? :roll:


Perhaps you could explain your way of avoiding cuts and scatches when cutting brambles.

It maybe that you could save someone getting cut up without looking like an escapee from a plastic bottle factory. :lol:  :lol:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: richyrich7 on October 21, 2007, 20:56
Wow Jac you are doing well, I haven't been near mine for about 3 weeks  or so :shock:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 21, 2007, 21:00
No, I can't.  :D

I just mean you are being wasted very witty and entertaining. :)

i just go out there and get cut as it comes. No frills or moans. :roll:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: mkhenry on October 21, 2007, 21:13
Quote from: "gobs"
No, I can't.  :D

I just mean you are being wasted very witty and entertaining. :)

i just go out there and get cut as it comes. No frills or moans. :roll:


You may like to know gobs that cuts caused by thorns and other ordinary plants in the garden regularly KILL people in this country. :?

Every year some poor soul contacts Tetanus(Lock Jaw)Etc from microrganisms and bacteria in the soil. :cry:

Going out of your way to get cut up under those circumstances is not a good idea. :wink:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 21, 2007, 21:26
That is very good sound advice, but I hope you do not want to make me overly worried about this. :? Are you?

I had me jab, by the way. :wink:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: mkhenry on October 21, 2007, 21:35
Quote from: "gobs"
That is very good sound advice, but I hope you do not want to make me overly worried about this. :? Are you?

I had me jab, by the way. :wink:


Not at all :lol:
If you have had your jabs then you should be ok anyway.


One of my brothers was an ambulance man.He said he was always having to pick up people who had injured themselves doing things without using the proper safety gear.

They always said the same thing.

"but I have always done it like that 100s of times.""nothing ever happened before."

And he always gave the same answer,"well it has now,you were just lucky before" :wink:

Try not to take preventable chances. :wink:  :lol:

I cut my thumb just the other day ,quite deeply. I was lucky but accidents do happen. :cry:  :lol:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 21, 2007, 21:42
oh I know, i cut meself before and I'm not proud of it. :x
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: splodger on October 21, 2007, 21:44
best to get rid of the nasty prickly plants - is to cut them up in small bits - starting from the top and working down - if you want to clear it - then dig out once you've got rid of the thorns -  with roses - when pruning, work out what you want to cut out (old/dead wood) and cut from the base - and follow the stem up - cutting evey foot or so - nice small pieces that you can pick up with the tip of your secs - and easy to manage bits - to get to bonfire.

i'm accident prone - but i don't get cut by thorns that often - little and often is the safe way to prune  :wink:
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Post by: gobs on October 22, 2007, 10:18
Oh, the cut was no thorns, I don't know if anybody else is plagued with this, or it's just a local phenomenon, but the ground on my plot is full of broken glass, from tiny bits to quite large pieces, I've collected 2 boxfulls of them and no end in sight. :evil:

And then you can't garden with some plastic bottle on your hands and thick builders' gloves don't tend to come in ladies' sizes. :(

Well, after cutting through a tendon, I think I'm a bit paranoid of glass, so I best stop moaning about it. Sorry. :roll:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: jacnal on October 22, 2007, 20:02
Quote from: "mkhenry"
Quote from: "gobs"
No, I can't.  :D

I just mean you are being wasted very witty and entertaining. :)

i just go out there and get cut as it comes. No frills or moans. :roll:


You may like to know gobs that cuts caused by thorns and other ordinary plants in the garden regularly KILL people in this country. :?

Every year some poor soul contacts Tetanus(Lock Jaw)Etc from microrganisms and bacteria in the soil. :cry:

Going out of your way to get cut up under those circumstances is not a good idea. :wink:  :roll:  :roll:


Info aimed at Gobs but bl**dy heck  :!: :shock:. I could die from these scratches? Cut up plastic bottles it is for protection before I do the gooseberry bushes - yikes! Good thing I got a tetanus jab in Jan...
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: jacnal on October 22, 2007, 20:07
Quote from: "richyrich7"
Wow Jac you are doing well, I haven't been near mine for about 3 weeks  or so :shock:


I just can't keep away for more than 3 days Rich! It's my addictive personality. When I gym, I doi it religiously, when I garden I do it religiously. I have withdrawal symptoms, lol!

Never been addicted to any substances though, in case someone's wondering :shock: . Just good things :wink:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: jacnal on October 22, 2007, 20:14
Quote from: "splodger"
best to get rid of the nasty prickly plants - is to cut them up in small bits - starting from the top and working down - if you want to clear it - then dig out once you've got rid of the thorns -  with roses - when pruning, work out what you want to cut out (old/dead wood) and cut from the base - and follow the stem up - cutting evey foot or so - nice small pieces that you can pick up with the tip of your secs - and easy to manage bits - to get to bonfire.

i'm accident prone - but i don't get cut by thorns that often - little and often is the safe way to prune  :wink:


I'll take note of this when (if) I do the gooseberry bushes. I've discovered even more were hidden under the bramble... I think I have about 8 of them! And none is pruned yet, and now I can't tell between old and new branches - what to do? Or does it not matter with goosies? Might leave till next year, then propagate a few - the bushes look old and gnarly :(
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: jacnal on October 22, 2007, 20:19
Quote from: "gobs"
Oh, the cut was no thorns, I don't know if anybody else is plagued with this, or it's just a local phenomenon, but the ground on my plot is full of broken glass, from tiny bits to quite large pieces, I've collected 2 boxfulls of them and no end in sight. :evil:

And then you can't garden with some plastic bottle on your hands and thick builders' gloves don't tend to come in ladies' sizes. :(

Well, after cutting through a tendon, I think I'm a bit paranoid of glass, so I best stop moaning about it. Sorry. :roll:


I do! And not just glass, but annoying plastick stuff like bottletops! Luckily not cut myself as yet, and I hope I dont!

I totally agree with the lack of ladies gloves that are properly protective. Mine still have the thorns go through them. The oversized men's gloves which were even cheaper don't have thorns going through them. I'm sure there are men with small/medium size hands, so I'll keep looking...

Ps didn't realise you were a girl Gobs :wink:  :!:
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Post by: gobs on October 22, 2007, 20:28
Quote from: "jacnal"
Quote from: "mkhenry"
Quote from: "gobs"
No, I can't.  :D

I just mean you are being wasted very witty and entertaining. :)

i just go out there and get cut as it comes. No frills or moans. :roll:


You may like to know gobs that cuts caused by thorns and other ordinary plants in the garden regularly KILL people in this country. :?

Every year some poor soul contacts Tetanus(Lock Jaw)Etc from microrganisms and bacteria in the soil. :cry:

Going out of your way to get cut up under those circumstances is not a good idea. :wink:  :roll:  :roll:


Info aimed at Gobs but bl**dy heck  :!: :shock:. I could die from these scratches? Cut up plastic bottles it is for protection before I do the gooseberry bushes - yikes! Good thing I got a tetanus jab in Jan...



Chill out Jack,

It's like 1 case per about 7,000,000 of population a year, and that's not necessarily from pruning. I know, it's still unlucky for that person, but there are more killing things about, that are really dangerous.  :D
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Post by: richyrich7 on October 22, 2007, 21:12
Quote from: "jacnal"
Quote from: "richyrich7"
Wow Jac you are doing well, I haven't been near mine for about 3 weeks  or so :shock:


I just can't keep away for more than 3 days Rich! It's my addictive personality. When I gym, I doi it religiously, when I garden I do it religiously. I have withdrawal symptoms, lol!

Never been addicted to any substances though, in case someone's wondering :shock: . Just good things :wink:


Bit Like that myself with the garden or when I've got a "project" on, had a bad case of sciatica for the last 13 weeks and struggle a bit at the mo, to get to work etc. May have to buy myself a mantiss   :wink:  to help down the plot.
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Post by: WG. on October 22, 2007, 21:14
Quote from: "richyrich7"
had a bad case of sciatica for the last 13 weeks and struggle a bit at the mo, to get to work etc. May have to buy myself a mantiss   :wink:  to help down the plot.
Spend the cash on a good chiropractor instead of a Mantiss  :)
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 22, 2007, 21:16
Quote from: "richyrich7"
Quote from: "jacnal"
Quote from: "richyrich7"
Wow Jac you are doing well, I haven't been near mine for about 3 weeks  or so :shock:


I just can't keep away for more than 3 days Rich! It's my addictive personality. When I gym, I doi it religiously, when I garden I do it religiously. I have withdrawal symptoms, lol!

Never been addicted to any substances though, in case someone's wondering :shock: . Just good things :wink:


Bit Like that myself with the garden or when I've got a "project" on, had a bad case of sciatica for the last 13 weeks and struggle a bit at the mo, to get to work etc. May have to buy myself a mantiss   :wink:  to help down the plot.


you haven't even been pregnant,surely. That's a *, though. Get better, Rich! :)  :)
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: richyrich7 on October 22, 2007, 21:21
Quote from: "gobs"


you haven't even been pregnant,surely. That's a *, though. Get better, Rich! :)  :)


7 kids takes a toll you know  :wink:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 22, 2007, 21:58
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "richyrich7"
had a bad case of sciatica for the last 13 weeks and struggle a bit at the mo, to get to work etc. May have to buy myself a mantiss   :wink:  to help down the plot.
Spend the cash on a good chiropractor instead of a Mantiss  :)


Well, I just got to agree with shamanic beardie person, again, waugh. :roll:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: jacnal on October 23, 2007, 19:29
Quote from: "gobs"
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "richyrich7"
had a bad case of sciatica for the last 13 weeks and struggle a bit at the mo, to get to work etc. May have to buy myself a mantiss   :wink:  to help down the plot.
Spend the cash on a good chiropractor instead of a Mantiss  :)


Well, I just got to agree with shamanic beardie person, again, waugh. :roll:


Me too. They work miracles on bad backs and necks! I think I shoud see one myself soon. I seem to have lost the strength on my back since my op. I get tired too quickly and my back hurts more than it ever has. I wonder why that is? :cry:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 23, 2007, 20:06
Too much digging and leaning?  :roll: Maybe. :?

Position, position, posture, posture, etc.  :roll:
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Post by: jacnal on October 23, 2007, 20:16
Quote from: "gobs"
Too much digging and leaning?  :roll: Maybe. :?

Position, position, posture, posture, etc.  :roll:


Must be... I couldn't walk straight for weeks, so bad posture right there. I'm all healed up now though, so maybe some strengthening exercises at the gym..... I need more time in the day :cry: .
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Post by: gobs on October 23, 2007, 20:20
Why don't you try a Pilati course?  :wink: It can work wonders with the right guidance. 8)
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Post by: jacnal on October 23, 2007, 21:12
Quote from: "gobs"
Why don't you try a Pilati course?  :wink: It can work wonders with the right guidance. 8)

I used to do pilates - right after bodypump. Been a bit of a gym freak in the past :oops:

I should go back soon. Gardening is great exercise, but after doing all that hard work, the muscles meed stretching, and I tend to forget, just like most gardeners do :!:
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Post by: richyrich7 on October 23, 2007, 21:14
Quote from: "WG."
Spend the cash on a good chiropractor


And I thought that was what the NHS was for  :lol:
Title: Been to my plot today for......
Post by: gobs on October 23, 2007, 21:17
NHS has got some very good physiotherapists you just gotta be so lucky. :wink: