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Poultry and Pets => Pets without Feathers => Topic started by: Goosegirl on March 07, 2015, 12:28

Title: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Goosegirl on March 07, 2015, 12:28
I've always used separate spot-ons but my vet has just told me about a combined one that should work out cheaper; however, you need to apply them more frequently so am querying this with you. I use Profender for worms and Advantage for fleas. I didn't get the name but, on giggling it, could be Advocate. Anyone got any experience which is the best as I can't get Profender on-line but I can get Advocate. Price is not tanoption as I want the best that works for them.
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: mumofstig on March 07, 2015, 15:00
In January the cat rehoming centre, that Molly came from, told me to use Advocate monthly and Profender every 6 months.

According to them Advocate doesn't work on tapeworms (Profender does)
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: maxyboo on March 07, 2015, 16:06
I agree with what MOS has said. Advocate also protects against earmites and heartworm which Advantage and Profender don't claim to do. My friend uses advocate at her sanctuary and swears by it, but she also uses Profender for tapeworms.
You can get advocate and profender online but only with a vets prescription. Try vetuk.co.uk. From a vet directly I assume the cost will be higher.
Like you I have used advantage for a while now as it seems to work well and I can get it without a prescription. I also use profender for the worms. This seems the most cost effective way for me to protect my babies.
I would say advocate is probably the best if you can afford it as it covers heartworm and earmites but you still need profender or something that will kill tapeworms.
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Auntiemogs on March 07, 2015, 20:14
I use Advocate for my two and then give them a pill for tapeworm, but when I went to the vets a few months ago, I'm sure he said there's now an all in one?  :unsure: 
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Goosegirl on March 08, 2015, 10:55
AM - I wonder if that was the one my vet's assistant mentioned? I had to stop using pills because, although I can just about get them down two of my cats, when my Daphne went to the vets for a post-op check up, I asked them to give her some worm tablets. They had a go then took her into a little side room. About 10 mins later they came out a bit white-faced and said they now understood my problem!!  :D I will give them a ring next week and ask the name, then let you know - thanks.
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Auntiemogs on March 08, 2015, 13:26
Thank you GG.  I still have some Advocate to use up, but it would be great to get it all done at once.   :)

Btw, I usually wimp out and get the vet to do the worming.  ::) ;) :lol:
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Goosegirl on March 09, 2015, 11:18
Oh AM - you wuss!  :nowink: What's a few deep scratches or a lost finger tip??  :blush: I've just booked one of our cats in for a routine check so they can continue prescribing spot-on wormer and asked the name of this new one. It's called Broadline and treats fleas, ticks, plus round and tape-worms. Having just re-read this thread, I didn't ask about ear mites and heart worm but look ing on-line, it treat biting lice and hookworms. Are these the same things?
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Sue33 on March 09, 2015, 13:07

our pups have advocate on a monthly basis and the wormer every 3 months  :)
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: maxyboo on March 11, 2015, 20:46
Goosegirl, I think hookworms are another worm found in the intestine. Earmites, lice and heartworm are all different parasites.
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: LotuSeed on March 12, 2015, 05:25
We use Heartgard but don't know what it's called there. They're chewable flavored treat-like tablets given once monthly to prevent heart-worm and hookworm. You need a prescription from the vet for it. For fleas ticks and live there's Frontline, Vectra and Advantage. But like I said that's here in the States. They may be called different things o'er the pond. Are your cats indoor, outdoor or indoor/outdoor?
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Lesleyk on March 12, 2015, 10:09
Oh AM - you wuss!  :nowink: What's a few deep scratches or a lost finger tip??  :blush: I've just booked one of our cats in for a routine check so they can continue prescribing spot-on wormer and asked the name of this new one. It's called Broadline and treats fleas, ticks, plus round and tape-worms. Having just re-read this thread, I didn't ask about ear mites and heart worm but look ing on-line, it treat biting lice and hookworms. Are these the same things?

Hi GG.  Our vet recently changed to Broadline - and they no longer supply separate spot ons for worms and fleas, so we have been forced to make the change so we have been using Broadline on our cats every six weeks for about 6 months now - it's quite expensive!  Also, our wee cat (she will never grow big) has suffered a bit with it, as it is quite strong, I think - it has made her dopey and unhappy.  The jury's out, and I am still thinking about trying to get the two treatments separately again, but we don't have too many options round here .....
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: mumofstig on March 12, 2015, 11:19
Get the vet to give you a prescription for the treatment that is best for your cat, and order online.

It's usually cheaper than the vet even with p&p!
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Goosegirl on March 12, 2015, 13:12
Goosegirl, I think hookworms are another worm found in the intestine. Earmites, lice and heartworm are all different parasites.
Thanks maxyboo - wasn't sure if heartworm was the same as hookworm. From the responses on here, I think I will just go on getting Frontline on-line and the Profender from the vets. I just want what is the most effective and safest even if it costs a few pounds more.
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: grendel on March 12, 2015, 14:39
the last time my wife tried to give one of our cats a tapeworm tablet- she had her little finger bitten- clean through to the nail (from the other side) a week on double strength antibiotics ensued.
Grendel
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Auntiemogs on March 12, 2015, 15:00
Oh AM - you wuss! 
Guilty as charged!  :lol: 

I've had a quick look online, and it does seem to 'cover all bases', although it's about £33 for 6 (large cat) as opposed to £10 for 4 Advantage, so twice the price (plus cost of prescription would have to be factored in)...

Having said that, I tend to get a prescription for a years worth for Millie, and then share them between her and her brother (Izzie).  I know they've probably been tested to the nth degree, but I really don't like putting chemicals on them, so I tend to use them more in the summer, or if they start scratching.  :)
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: Goosegirl on March 13, 2015, 10:22
the last time my wife tried to give one of our cats a tapeworm tablet- she had her little finger bitten- clean through to the nail (from the other side) a week on double strength antibiotics ensued.
Grendel
You've probably seen this but it is so true!  :lol:
How to Give a Cat a Tablet -
Pick the cat up and cradle in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand.
As cat opens mouth pop pill into it, allow cat to close mouth and swallow.
Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind the sofa.
Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process.
Retrieve cat from bedroom and throw soggy pill away.
Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm holding rear paws tightly with left hand.
Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger.
Hold mouth shut for a count of ten.
Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe.
Call partner in from garden.
Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws.
Ignore low growls emitted by cat.
Get partner to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth.
Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously.
Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from the foil wrap.
Make note to buy a new ruler and repair curtains.
Carefully sweep shattered 'Doulton' figurines from hearth and set to one side for gluing later.
Wrap cat in large towel and get partner to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit.
Put pill in end of drinking straw, force cat's mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw.
Check label to make sure pills not harmful to humans, drink glass of water to take taste away.
Apply plaster to partners forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap.
Retrieve cat from neighbour's shed and get another pill.
Place cat in cupboard and close door onto neck to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon and flick pill down throat with elastic band.
Fetch screwdriver from garage and put door back on hinges.
Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus jab.
Throw t-shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom.
Ring fire brigade to retrieve cat from tree across the road and apologise to neighbour who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid the cat.
Take last pill from foil wrap.
Tie cats front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy duty pruning gloves from shed and pry cat's mouth open with a small spanner.
Push pill into mouth followed by a large piece of fillet steak.
Hold head vertically and pour a pint of water down throat to wash down pill.
Get partner to drive you to the Emergency Room and sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearms and removes pill remnants from right eye.
Call at furniture shop on way home to order new table.
Arrange for RSPCA to collect cat.
Ring local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.

How to Give a Dog a Tablet -
Throw it in the air.
Say "Catch"
Title: Re: Spot-on cat wormer v spot-on combined wormer and flea treatment
Post by: grendel on March 13, 2015, 12:33
That sounds about right, of course it was my fault as I had control of all 4 paws of said cat and was holding him, not hers as she forced his mouth open and stuck the pill in.
Grendel