Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: Mum2mj on May 10, 2013, 16:22
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Hi, the allotments I would like won't even put me on the waiting list as its so long! There are vacant plots at one in the other direction - both are a 10 min drive from me & are the closest. We are hoping to move within 2 years (hopefully nearer my first choice allotment) so obviously further from the 2nd one. I've not visited yet but there are several plots free (I think) which are overgrown, 'shouldn't' have rubbish on & haven't been vandalised recently..
They have water & a portaloo.
I would love an allotment, I grow veg at home, my time is limited as my children are young & my husband has no interest in growing anything but will build the occasional raised bed for me!
Obviously I have yet to see it, but given that I might have to give it up in a year or two, due to distance (or possibly not depending how life goes) do you think it's worth it??
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Knowing what I know now and how I feel about my plots I wouldn't take on one short term but that is because we have a lot of long term plants and bushes in but that is just my two pence worth. Some seem to empty their plot yearly so in that case I suppose it would be ok. :wacko:
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I think to get an overgrown plot into a state of reasonable productivity is a big job. It took me the best part of two years to get my plot the way I wanted it and it wasn't in a bad state when I got it, just a bit overgrown from a single season's neglect. As much as you want it, you'd end up giving it up just as you'd got it the way you want it. Great for the next tenant, but not for you.
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Personally i would, but im single (which means i have no one else to consider) and love the hard work, you really need to view the plot first i guess, and have the full consent and backing of the other half. and also as Beetroot queen added, only stick to crops that will be done in a season.
if you only get two years worth of lovely crops then its going to be enjoyable eating and a learning curve too.
If however the plot is going to take alot of work to get ready for planting (with a move to consider also) then it may be taking on alot of work that you would feel unhappy about giving up when you eventually move. especially considering that the other (preferred site) you may not be able to get on to. (for a few years at least)
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Perhaps a half plot would be easier to get going with? I got my allotment 2 years ago, and my first year I struggled to get all of it cultivated. I was working by myself with limited time, due to commuting rather than children. I still got things done, but looking back, there would have been no way for me to dig over the whole thing.
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I've only had mine for 4 weeks, and it was overgrown, but I've got half dug & seeded and a number of plants indoors in paper pots waiting to slot through weed sheeting in the other half (not going to attempt digging that half this year). I only ever get a half hour here and there inbetween taxiing the kids about (even just did a quick ten mins weeding yesterday) so I'd say yes.
It'll all be a bit 'speedy gardening and cutting corners' this year due to the very late start, but better that than dreaming about it ::)
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I agree with Simon Watson-it's took us 2 years to get things the way we want on our lotty but we are looking to the long term. I understand your plight though-when it's so hard to get allotments. I guess if you are happy to put lots of work in and then potentially have to start again on another one, why not? As Pigguns said-better to have something than potentially have to wait another few years! You could cover some of it with tarpaulins to keep weeds down and just cultivate what you can.....
Best of luck! :happy:
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How likely is the move to happen?
People have given you good things to consider; on the other side of the equation is the point that you might still be in your present house in 5 years' time and wishing you'd taken the step.
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also a plot in the hand is worth many on the waiting list, even after you move you may find the waiting list is several years at the other site, after your 2 years work on the temporary plot you will be positioned with a plot that can be managed with fewer visits, so you should be able to keep it up until you can get one closer to home, I have the equivalent of a whole plot (2 1/2s on two sites a mile apart and a mile from home) yes it would be easier if they were 1 plot on 1 site, but I manage to keep them cultivated and get a decent return in veg and fruit, and year by year it gets easier.
Grendel
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As has been hinted at above, the house moves not set in stone until you
actually commit financially/legally, things can change over a couple of years.
It may never happen.
If it does go ahead in 2 or 3 years time just think of the valuable experience
you will have gained.
I personally wouldn't decide against it because of something that might happen in
the future, but that's just me.
Best of luck whichever way you decide to go.
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If you think you can get a plot on your '2nd choice' site I say go for it if you really want an allotment! If they won't even let you put your name down on your 1st choice site because the list is too long then I reckon two years won't make any difference. You could go for a half plot - thats what we've got - and thats plenty of space. A full plot would be a lot of work on your own with a young family. I share with two friends, OH's/Hubbies aren't interested except for a bit of building stuff - kids LOVE it though! As others have said, in the two years or so that pass before you move, you could get a plot up together and wouldn't need to visit so often anyway. If you don't go for it now and then don't get a plot when you move.... wah!!!!!
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We did actually take on our plot when we were planning on only being at this address for another couple of years. Since then we've had a rethink and have decided to stay for at least another 5.
We figured that even in a year we'd have fun, grow some stuff, eat it and pickup a whole load of useful hands on knowledge that would be useful when we come to have another plot or sufficient land to have a decent veg patch at home.
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I took on my half plot a year ago, and I don't plan to stay living in the area long-term. It will take most of this year to sort out, but it's great experience, and I'll take my shed, trees and bushes with me when I do go, and more plant knowledge then I ever thought I could cram into my noggn.
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It would give you a chance to get some experience and sort out what you want to do when you get a proper plot later.
It has taken me a couple of years to decide what makes a good plot, where things should go and what I want grow.
Just don't put perennials in that you can't move, asparagus for instance. Most veg are annuals anyway.
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Would you actually have to give up the plot in a year or two if you took it on?
If you would have to owing to where you moved to then it may not be worthwhile, a half plot might.
The first choice location you are not even on the waiting list for and when they reopen the waiting list how many will likely to have managed to get their names down in advance of you. In effect how far down the new waiting list would you be.
If a move to the new location will not prevent you having a plot at the second choice then until an available plot appears at the first choice you may as well take up the chance.
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Go for it!
I took mine on after much deliberation a year earlier than I expected, thinking that the waiting list was so
Long. I am still digging mine but love it and so glad I said yes.
Great learning experience
Mrswashi
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Hi everyone thank you so much for taking the time to reply, your comments have given me food for thought ::)
The house move isn't set in stone, neither I guess is the location, and a lot can happen...
The first choice location is in another borough even though its slightly closer so depending how it works i may not be able to put my name down anyway. And a half plot does sound more manageable.. Can you guess where I'm going with this?! I will take a drive past it later to have a peek & view it properly next week but I think I'm sold :D
Just need to convince hubby it's a good idea!
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Go for it. You wont regret it....err well maybe when you back goes ::) :D
Cudders
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I moved around a lot with my occupation over the decades and created & left a number of gardens/allotments.
I always wanted to have a plum, damson, & greengage but never did because it takes three years to establish and bear a worthwhile crop. On three occasions I stayed for over ten years but kept using the excuse "one day we will move on", or "we could move next year"
My advice to you is "Go for it" use your NOW. My three score years and ten are within days, I wasted too much time with caution. :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Now my plot is far too windy & exposed.
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I know I will most likely have to move jobs in the next 2 years and probably move house sooner. My plot new this year is near my work. I've made a good start and prehaps 1/2 has stuff growing in it. Another 1/4 is covered.
Provided your realistic - have some spare time and don't plan to clear it all this year then you will still get a good amount of produce just cover the areas you won't have time to work on.
I have planted some soft fruit and will be taking them all with me when I go!