Moving to lincs and no gas :ohmy: There is an oil fired boiler with the smallest amount of oil and a boiler I've no idea how it works. Has anyone had experience of a wood pellet or wood boiler and what is involved and how much?
There are radiators and a hot water tank.
Thank you
Let’s start at the beginning
LPG 7.11 kW per liter. About 54p a liter but with big variations per contract IE 45p to 65p
Oil 10.35 kW per liter about 60p a liter little variation but ahs gone up to 100p plus during the bad weather
Both assume 100% efficiency (new boilers are about 90%)
Therefore LPG has to be 30% cheaper to be = to oil. It rarely is but there are times (recent bad weather) where oil goes up dramatically way over the price of LPG (like for like). This does not make Oil an automatic choice as it needs more maintenance it is extraordinary expensive for cooking and I believe the boilers are more expensive and take up more room.
Both assume 100% efficiency (new boilers about 90%)
Therefore LPG has to be 30% cheaper to be = to oil. It rarely is but there are times (recent bad weather) where oil goes up dramatically way over the price of LPG (like for like). This does not make Oil an automatic choice as it needs more maintenance it is extraordinary expensive for cooking and I believe the boilers are more expensive and take more room.
LPG Tank gas (not bought in bottles) requires a 2 year contract but at the end of the contract it is now much easier to change suppliers. They the present supplier is required to sell the tank to the new supplier at a price decided by a formula (the tank is rented normally at £60 a year). Although they must now supply you with a contract which state how much they can raise the price by they are not obliged to stick with it. Once they break the contract you can change suppliers but you can not hold them to it. You should think twice about going down the LPG route if there is a limited amount of suppliers in your area. I have 7 (some will be of no use IE far too expensive) while other areas only have 2!!
Check here
http://www.uklpg.org/supplier-search/search.php Now there is plenty silly people who think that using alternative energy as an extra is a good idea it is not. They are junk in they do no pay back the money within the life of the product IE wind and solar (solar in England??? nuts). Wind can actually use electricity in some circumstance and are noisy and unsightly. Although a new system which is in test and runs along the ridge of the roof and is up to 10 times more efficient (and not unsightly) is looking like a sane solution. It uses the increase in speed as the wind goes up the roof just like an airplane wing.
All my research on ground pump shows little or no benefit unless you do it with at least 2 of your neighbors and you have the right ground conditions. So future wind power (for your house) is a possible although direction of wind and speed relative to roof will make a big differance.
Now should you go for the wood pellets option NO definitly not although it is the (cheapest according to them and claim 2.5p per kwh note not 100% efficient) you are captured customer and the more people who go down that route the higher the cost in the future i.e. supply and demand.
The cheapest is has always been Economy 7 and by long way. Note I use E7 for environmental reason only I have no electric heating.
6.72p per kWh (day)
The first 900 kWh 19.56p per kWh (day) = to a £9.80 standing charge per month
3.16p per kWh (night)
I assume electricity is 100% efficient?
Note these prices are very low BUT a new tariff now would have near identical night prices and 10p day time prices (all prices are based on the Lincolnshire Wolds & Scottish power)
Note if you only use electricity then you should not count the standing charge as you have to have that with all the other options in other words you are double counting.
Now I know there will be a lot of negative remarks about E7 heating by people who either live in the past or are ignorant of the facts.
A/ the loss of heat during the day is now much much smaller due to excellent insulation of the radiators and running out of heat is much less likely as house insulation is much better.
So what would I go for if I was starting from the beginning?:- Well I would
Heat by new method an accumulator tank (see below for info and sales). They can be heated by anything electricity solid fuel, gas, oil and if you wanted to all of the latter at the same time. They are basically a very large immersion tank (very large) which is so heavily insulted that it only losses 2 centigrade per 24 hours therefore 1 centigrade per day (assuming your using it) and I would add/back it up with a wood burner with a boiler (wood can be very cheap I have had 3 years for virtually nothing or in some areas if you buy it in a lot more expensive than any other fuel) or an oil boiler or if I had to use LPG heating I would use bottles instead of tank IE no contract and rental (LPG suppliers will never agree to supply you with less than 1000 liters a year if you tell them that’s all you are going to use). I would basically be using Electricity to heat Wet radiators.
Look it up everything I said to help you. Oh by the way I use LPG (47ppl) and only used £130 at today’s prices plus £60 rental. I bought a wood burner (does not do central heating) and turn the central heating on for an hour or two in the winter BUT this is based on free wood I have no guarantee it will last. Although it has paid for the £2000 wood burner and the fitting and I am now in profit. PS I live in a 2 bed bungalow.
For accumulator tank see and others
http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Accumulator-hot-water-tanks.html
E7 compared to LPG at 7.11 KWh and 100% efficent at a price of 47ppl (cheap and not 100% effcient)
E7 Day time 6.72p KWh LPG 6.6 KWh
E7 Night time 3.16 a KWh LPG 6.6 KWh