Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2010, 20:52 »
I've bought a book on permaculture and one on British trees - neither give much detailed info. I think hazel coppice is a possibility though.
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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2010, 20:56 »
great for making hurdles for temporary fencing in those sheep  :). Loved making them but it is hard work.
Staffies are softer than you think.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2010, 02:21 »
I have a large black walnut tree that had 2 trunks close to the base. During a heavy snowstorm, one half literally snapped off from the snow load. Took us ages in spring to clear away the mess and bitty branches but figured now we at least had a single, sort of straight trunk. Nope. Loads of shoots coming off the broken side and I'm now thinking that I should coppice them. Hard to beat walnut for density. Can't remember where it stands in heat units for woodburners though.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2010, 06:53 »
Found this on another forum it should help you decide


The Firewood Poem
Beechwood fires are bright and clear
If the logs are kept a year,
Chestnut's only good they say,
If for logs 'tis laid away.
Make a fire of Elder tree,
Death within your house will be;
But ash new or ash old,
Is fit for a queen with crown of gold

Birch and fir logs burn too fast
Blaze up bright and do not last,
it is by the Irish said
Hawthorn bakes the sweetest bread.
Elm wood burns like churchyard mould,
E'en the very flames are cold
But ash green or ash brown
Is fit for a queen with golden crown

Poplar gives a bitter smoke,
Fills your eyes and makes you choke,
Apple wood will scent your room
Pear wood smells like flowers in bloom
Oaken logs, if dry and old
keep away the winter's cold
But ash wet or ash dry
a king shall warm his slippers by.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2010, 08:00 »
I don't know how quickly it grows but we have quite a few laurel around, growng in similar conditions.

It gives tremendous heat when seasoned ( burns like coal ) and regenerates after cutting.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2010, 08:17 »
it also contains hydrogen cyanide so don't burn the leaves  :(

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2010, 08:46 »
Came across a tree nursery 1,000 ft up in Wales so I reckon they should be able to supply trees and hedging plants that will grow in challenging conditions.

it also contains hydrogen cyanide so don't burn the leaves  :(

Wow! didn't know that - amazing.

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2010, 09:32 »
This place is 900ft up on poor sandy soil all coppice planted ash and hazel has thrived as does all standard native hedging.Half an acre well managed should produce enough to heata good sized house in 10 to 12 years.Ash is an amazing wood,far more tolerant of poor growing conditions than many people realise.------- dont know about the willow in Canada round here it's mostly salix alba or salix caprea both these burn quite well'but need to be seasoned for a couple of years. Best wishes with your move.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2010, 09:39 »
Should add that I'm on about our place in shropshire,not where half my stuff,and the kids and the missus(and me soonas)are in Emiglia Romagnia!- there we burn sweet chestnut.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2010, 11:10 »
it also contains hydrogen cyanide so don't burn the leaves  :(

Laurel grows fast.

Together with our neighbours we cut down an overgrown laurel hedge and had a huge bonfire.  Everyone enjoyed themselves - and are none the worse for it!

Gillie


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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2010, 11:42 »
This place is 900ft up on poor sandy soil all coppice planted ash and hazel has thrived as does all standard native hedging.Half an acre well managed should produce enough to heata good sized house in 10 to 12 years.Ash is an amazing wood,far more tolerant of poor growing conditions than many people realise.------- dont know about the willow in Canada round here it's mostly salix alba or salix caprea both these burn quite well'but need to be seasoned for a couple of years. Best wishes with your move.
Thanks for that - I'd like to stick with mixed native species rather than those awful mono-culture conifer plantations, so reassuring to read that you think ash will thrive.
Hope you and your family are re-united full time soon.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2010, 13:47 »
well  it' amazing how much I get done without Ted and co. 'helping'!Just one thing,you probably know anyhow,ensure that all hawthorn(cretaegus monygyna) has been grown from UK collected seed.The foreign thorn is slightly different,so you'd be messing with the local ecology.(Notlike planting Leylandii but best avoid any how)Good nurseries are aware of this. There used to a great native species grower near Welshpool don't know if they're still about,if not try the bloke at Bucknell nurseries on the Salop border,he's helpful knowledgable and not dear, and no relation  of  mine!

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2010, 17:13 »
it also contains hydrogen cyanide so don't burn the leaves  :(

Gosh !! I didn't know that either but was told laurel leaves are poisonous and was surprised to see the cows ( dairy !!) eating them.

I have also had bonfires and lived to tell the tale.  :) :)

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2010, 17:54 »
so have we - however you have bonfires out in the open air,so it is only fair to advise anybody who is burning them in a more enclosed space that it would be better if they didn't burn the leaves.

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Re: Suitable Trees for Bio Fuel on Poor Land
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2010, 18:17 »
so have we - however you have bonfires out in the open air,so it is only fair to advise anybody who is burning them in a more enclosed space that it would be better if they didn't burn the leaves.

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