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Title: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: Yorkie on January 12, 2018, 20:01
First cases of the year found in Dorset

Bird flu confirmed in 17 wild animals in Dorset | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bird-flu-uk-dorset-latest-wild-animals-news-updates-a8156381.html)
Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: sunshineband on January 12, 2018, 20:01
My heart sank Here we go again.....
Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: New shoot on January 13, 2018, 09:46
My heart sank Here we go again.....

Hopefully not.  Abbotsbury is home to the swannery.  Their swans stay put, but it no doubt attracts other waterfowl that have migrated.  The virus is around in various countries, but not, as yet, anything like as bad as last year. 

It does always seem to be waterfowl that bring it in.  I am near the Thames, so my lot are staying in for a few weeks just in case.  They have covered runs and their food and water are only accessible to them.  It may cost me a few extra greens, but I'd rather play safe.
Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: spottymint on January 18, 2018, 19:04
In the Metro, looks like bird flu biosecurity is back.

Bird flu: 'Prevention zone' extended nationwide after more than 40 confirmed infections - Get Surrey (http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/bird-flu-prevention-zone-extended-14171762)

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Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: New shoot on January 19, 2018, 10:47
Latest from Defra - keep 'em safe folks!

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/avian-influenza-bird-flu-in-winter-2017-to-2018#history
Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: LosPollosHermanos on January 21, 2018, 00:54
Sadly, I think its looking quite bad and I wouldn't be surprised if a nationwide housing order comes out within the next couple of weeks maybe even sooner. Dr Nigel Gibbens, Chief Veterinary Officer who has a big influence on these decisions is due to retire at the end of next month so I'm guessing he'll err on the side of caution as will the NFU.

There have been two more outbreaks in wild birds since the one in Dorset. One in Warwickshire and the other yesterday near Cambridge.

The first outbreak was in 15 Mute Swans but a Common Pochard and a Canada Goose also died.

The second outbreak in Warwickshire involved, a Herring Gull, 6 Great black-backed Gulls, a Great Crested Grebe and 5 Tufted Ducks. All European H5N6.

The 3rd outbreak is at Amwell Nature Reserve, Hertfordshire, which is now closed but there's no information available yet about what species / virus were involved. I expect that will come out in the next couple of days.

If we're lucky then maybe that'll be the end of it but in my heart I think its just getting going. Hope I'm wrong.

The thing that's really worrying me is that spring migration is just around the corner and its possible we might see the return of H5N8 as well. I'm no expert but it seems a little unusual that there are active outbreaks in places where the temperatures ranges are 10-30 C like South Africa and Saudi Arabia to mention a couple.

I know it really sucks to keep birds in and you can't help feeling sorry for them being cooped up, but you should see what happens in countries where controls aren't so tight. There are plenty of countries in Africa where they've had to import breeding eggs as they didn't have any left. In Iran they had had to stamp out 17 million birds over the past 10 months and South Africa killed millions in order to get it under control...







Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: New shoot on January 21, 2018, 08:19
I've merged the bird flu threads so we keep the information in one place.

Bio-security is back for England already  - see the links in the posts below for DEFRA and the Metro. 

Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: LosPollosHermanos on January 23, 2018, 23:56
An interesting Risk Assessment about bird flu was published yesterday. Its a long read but basically concludes that the big risk factor looks like its going to be Gulls. Down side is that they'll spread it in the wild but the upside is that good biosecurity looks like it could be enough and it doesn't look like there will need to be a housing order yet.

To be honest its the first time I've read anything from a government body in years that seemed well thought through and it was fascinating to see the thinking behind how they actually work out the risk levels.

Main positive is that it may not transfer that easily to chickens, fingers crossed.

I have to confess to being a bit obsessed about this stuff, as last year we had a massive problem with people refusing to put their birds away on our allotments. It was such a wind up for the committee, that I'm dreading a housing order.

I'm pretty new here so I hope its OK blathering on about this stuff

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/675425/rapid-risk-assessment-avian-flu-wild-birds-H5N6-180121.pdf
Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: New shoot on January 24, 2018, 11:56

I'm pretty new here so I hope its OK blathering on about this stuff

Yes of course it is  :)  That is an interesting link, so thank you for posting it.  I'm going to have a good read through later.
Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: LosPollosHermanos on January 24, 2018, 16:27
"An all Wales Avian Influenza Prevention Zone is to come into place at midnight tonight.

A veterinary risk assessment for England and Wales shows that the risk level for disease in wild birds has increased from Medium to High.

The risk associated with direct and indirect transmission to poultry has also increased from Low to Medium.

The risk to poultry, however, is dependent on the level of biosecurity at individual sites."

http://www.walesfarmer.co.uk/news/local_news/15894326.Bird_flu_prevention_zone_set_up_across_Wales__Welsh_Government_announces/
Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: LosPollosHermanos on January 31, 2018, 11:53
Farming UK is reporting new wild outbreaks in the UK also in the Netherlands there was another wild outbreak again involving gulls.

"four more areas have been identified including a nature reserve in Hertford, a river in Oakham, Rutland, a country park in Wakefield, West Yorkshire and a lake in North West London."
https://www.farminguk.com/news/Gulls-risk-spreading-bird-flu-as-six-sites-test-now-positive-throughout-England_48492.html

The problem with gulls is that at least some of them are overwintering in the south and as temperatures rise they will drift north. Restrictions in Scotland seem very likely soon.

Title: Re: Bird Flu 2018
Post by: New shoot on February 07, 2018, 21:08
A big outbreak in Windsor has killed a lot of swans.

Windsor Swans: Bird flu confirmed in Queen's flock - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-42975121)

We are upstream and I hope it doesn't spread this way.  There are lots of swans on the Thames in Reading and they are very popular here, as are all the other waterfowl.  They are always happy to see anyone with a bag of bread and will take it from your hand if you dare risk your fingers.