'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft , Found a'Dwarf cherry' is this better?

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'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft ,Ready to Fruit £16.99 from Beechwood nurseries.
Would this be a good start to my fruit collection?
Any problems or tricks to growing one of these?

Would this be better?

'Sunburst' Cherry Tree Prunus Avium 4-5 ft Ready to Fruit in 2012
« Last Edit: December 20, 2011, 17:49 by Judd »
It's better to burn out than to fade away !!     ;)

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Re: 'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft ,Ready to Fruit
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 21:35 »
Judd, you do know how BIG cherry trees get? If you're prepared for this and you have a big enough plot, and you don't mind a lot of shade when it matures eventually.......
Cut & pasted this from  Ashridge trees - it will need another tree to make whoopie with or you won't get fruit I think:-
Characteristics of Early Rivers Trees:

Self fertile.
Pollination Group A.
Some susceptibility to Canker.
Crop from Early June
Pollination Partners for Early Rivers Cherries:
Your trees must be pollinated to make fruit.
Merton Glory is the best pollination partner we grow for Early Rivers.

Rootstocks:
Our Early Rivers cherry trees are all grown on "Colt" rootstocks.
Maximum height 4 metres.


The sunburst cherry is in a pollination group that will match most others,.



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Re: 'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft ,Ready to Fruit
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 22:42 »
Hi Janey I do have a large plot and never really gave much thought to how big it would grow,I thought (foolishly perhaps :blush:) that I could keep it pruned to a reasonable height.
I do love cherries though!
£16 for a 6ft  tree....Sounded like a bargain  to my unknowledgeable ears
I'm 53 now so I'll probably be dead anyway before it gets too big!

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Re: 'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft ,Ready to Fruit
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 23:20 »
You can get fruit trees on a dwarf rootstock, where they do some jiggery pokery and graft bits of trees onto other trees so they don't get too big, but you need to check before you order. It's not impossible to have dwarf cherries, and I expect someone will be along soon with more advice.
I think my 2 pear trees are heading for divorce as they've failed to produce any fruit, one is unknown variety, the other should have been compatible with almost any variety, except of course, the one I have  ::) 53 is no age, I'm not far behind you, you know  :blink:

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Re: 'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft ,Ready to Fruit
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 10:14 »
I'd be inclined to get a fruit tree on a dwarf root stock - one tree on its own and the local bird population will pick it clean of the fruit just when they are ready to eat, so if you got a dwarf variety, you could grow it in a netted cage for better protection.

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Re: 'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft ,Ready to Fruit
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 18:23 »
I'd double check whether the height you're referring to is the height on arrival or the maximum growing height.

I think to get a full size tree on a standard allotment plot is irresponsible, to be honest.  You have a limited amount of growing space, which will be significantly reduced by the canopy and roots competing for light, water and nutrients.

There is also the question of shade over neighbouring plots, and what you leave behind as a legacy to the next person to have your plot - a tree which is really difficult to get up because of its size.

I'd go with the others' suggestions for a dwarfing rootstock.  That will maximise the benefits (easier to pick too!) without the downsides in the long term.
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days all attack me at once...

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Re: 'Early Rivers' Cherry Tree 5-6 ft ,Ready to Fruit
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 18:26 »
Bear in mind that even a 'semi dwarfing' rootstock will lead to a tree around 3m tall unless you prune significantly

Not easy to net and far too big for most plots as well  :(
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I've found this,

DWARF 6/7FT CHERRY SWEETHEART,HARDY,SELF FERTILE,IDEAL FOR GROWING IN A POT

Would this be OK?

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Sounds great.

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Sounds much more like it, Judd  :D

and don't under estimate how quickly cherries grow either  :nowink:

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HA HA!   That's my first decision made ,now then just a few hundred more and I'll be on course :D

Thank you very much for your advice everyone :blink:

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Early rivers is self-sterile, not self fertile and thus requires another cherry as pollinator. sunburst is self-fertile.

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It is irrelevant, if it fruits from this year or next. It is a long term investment. You want a reliable variety, even if for a few quid more. I personally can recommend Cherokee. Excellent variety.

No polinators or pruning are required. Get one on a rootstock, suited to your space and environment. Semi-dwarfing sounds right for your circumstance.

You will need to net it though, birds also like them.
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Thanks for that Gobs :blink:
You don't live too far from me so the climate will be similar.



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