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Author Topic: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?  (Read 25663 times)

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Re: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2011, 19:35 »
If it's washed up (ie on the tideline) then isn't it fair game, along with wood and other "beachcombable" stuff?



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Re: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2011, 19:43 »
I'm getting dizzy from all this ---  no-one is allowed to take anyhting, including seaweed, from the shoreline or below without the landowner's position.

What is the difficulty with that?

I don't get it -- you woudn't take something from a 'public' park afer all.

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Re: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2011, 19:45 »
I think the question has been comprehensively answered and there is no point in going round in further circles, so I am now locking this thread.

Aidy, if you get responses to your questions, please do PM a Moderator and we'll add the info to the thread.

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Re: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2011, 15:29 »
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Hi Aunty.
I noticed the seaweed thread had been locked, as I mentioned I had emailed several bodies and just had a reply from Blackpool council so thought I would pm you, I am thinking it may be worth putting it up as a sticky for future as it does pop up from time to time.
Our council say it is permitted to take seaweed/ driftwood off the beach but not sand/ pebbles. Here is their reply....

Dear Mr *,

I have contacted our Beach Patrol (01253 626141) who have clarified that whilst sand and pebbles are not permitted to be taken from the beach, driftwood and seaweed are both allowed to be removed.

They also wanted me to add that when on the beach you should always take care and be aware of the sea, tide times and weather conditions.

Kind regards,
etc etc etc



I will advise when I get a reply from the enviromental agency etc but I would assume that the council would know of any laws that prohibit it. I also know there is several bodies trying to change this as the strand line is seen as a micro enviroment for many creatures, but as the law stands you are permitted.
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Aidy


This information applies to shore line in the Blackpool Council area.
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Re: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2011, 17:09 »
More information from Aidy.




Environmental agency's reply.....

Dear *
 
Thank you for your enquiry regarding the taking of driftwood and seaweed from the beach at Blackpool, this has been passed to the council at Blackpool who will be replying to you shortly.
 
 
 
Regards
Margaret James
Customer Service Advisor
National Customer Contact Centre
Part of National Operations



So I guess as they have no legal standing its down to local authority I therfore assume unless there is no local by-laws restricting it its perfectly legal to take it off.




I would assume the opposite and take it that it's not legal unless there is a bye-law allowing it.

It boils down to the best advice is:  contact your local council and ask.  If they don't have responsibility for the foreshore they may be able to tell you who owns it.

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Re: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2011, 20:17 »
I hesitate to continue to post on this locked thread but I have to correct Aidy's assumption.  The EA has no legal standing in this issue and therefore their reply is not relevant legally.

The legal position is as follows for any land around the UK:

All land has an owner.  Very broadly speaking, anything on that land belongs to the land owner unless specific rights have been granted to others.

Above high water mark the owner will probably either be an individual or the local authority.

Below high water mark, up to and including the sea bed, the most likely owner is the Crown Estate.  Alternative owners may include the local authority or the Duchy of Cornwall.

You may not remove anything from land without permission of the land owner.  Otherwise it is potentially theft or other more specific offences.  Seaweed is included in this rule.

So, as Aunt Sally has said, first you must identify the owner of the land.  Best to contact your local council and ask a) who is the land owner of the area above high water mark, and b) who is the land owner of the foreshore i.e. between high and low water marks.  If they cannot establish themselves as legal owners, then you can assume it is Crown Estate.

Once you have establised ownership, then you can determine from the owner what permissions, if any, apply with regards to the abstraction or removal of seaweed from above and below the high water line.  For land owned by the local authority, bye-laws will be the best evidence of general permissions.

The situation will differ around the UK.
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Re: Is it legal to take seaweed from our beaches here in the UK?
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2011, 14:27 »
Another reply to Aidy:



Another reply, this time Fylde Borough Council.
Basicly no problem but they don't encourage it and so long as I don't turn up with a JCB!
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