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Chatting on the Plot / Re: Smart Meters
« Last post by DanielCoffey on Today at 16:38 »
The other benefit to the consumer (assuming the 3G signal allows it of course) is automated meter readings so you don't get estimated bills any more.

At the moment, "Smart" meters are just auto-reading and most have some sort of tabletop/wall gizmo that shows current usage against a target. That is about all.

It is the Smart Meter 2.0 ones that *may* allow time of use billing. The idea here is that freezers can be told "only come on at night" or that an appliance can be told "it is peak time, can you switch off for a bit please". Whether this means we need new appliances to make use of this, I have no idea. The cynical part of me says we will.

In the (very) long run, we will all be on something like Economy 10 where 'leccy costs more or less throughout the day depending on time, wind power and so on and we will be charged differently for exactly when we use it.
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Chatting on the Plot / Re: Super Summer!!
« Last post by JayG on Today at 16:29 »
With a payback time without subsidies after next March of up to 70 years, now doesn't look like a good time to be planning on going into the solar panel business!  :nowink:

Looks like the Government got their sums serious wrong when they dreamt up FIT as a way of promoting green energy, although how it compares in the long term with subsidising new nuclear power stations is anyone's guess!  :ohmy:
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Chatting on the Plot / Re: Smart Meters
« Last post by Lardman on Today at 16:15 »
Too be avoided at all costs. There are so many negatives for the consumer with the only positive being monitoring usage. For the supplier however - the possibilities are endless and half hourly pricing based on demand is a major goal.

There will be a point where we'll be forced to upgrade but until then I'll not be having one.

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Grow Your Own / Re: beans
« Last post by DHM on Today at 16:07 »
Getting our plot quite late I only mananged to bung in 7 dwarf french bean plants but they've been suprisingly prolific, a scant half carrier bag per week and still going strong now.

Next year however I've dedicated an 10x11ft bed to beans so it will be bean central! Here's the plan:

Dwarf Kidney - Canadian Wonder
Dwarf Flageolet - Flagrano
Climbing Runner - Polestar
Climbing Broad - Bunyards Exhibition
Climbing Borlotti - Lingua di Fuoco
Climbing French - Blauhilde
Peas - Alderman
Mangetout - Oregon Sugar Pod
Magic Bean - Jacks Ladder

I was joking about the last one...!
I wouldn't describe the broad beans as climbing.  They get to about 4ft or so, but won't twine round a pole like climbing french beans.   I would grow them separately in a block myself.

Ooh I didn't know that. If i still grow them up the side of the 'cane tent' but add netting to tie the stems to would that work or are they just bushy?
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Chatting on the Plot / Re: Super Summer!!
« Last post by John on Today at 15:50 »
Be interesting to see what the economics of if all look like when the subsidies stop for new installations, especially if the price goes up because the demand for them has fallen off a cliff... :unsure:
Sadly even the current level of FIT doesn't make financial sense. I think it's stupid and shortsighted of the government who seem committed to nuclear even if viable alternatives are available. The Swansea barrage is another example of that.
I'm not rabidly anti-nuclear power but I've never heard of a solar panel meltdown.
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Chatting on the Plot / Re: Smart Meters
« Last post by John on Today at 15:43 »
We have one, It now enables me to justify screaming at the kids for the lecky they use when NOT in their room, like tv on while they eat down stairs, they now receive a fine so its making our energy bills cheaper!!
Have you managed to teach them to tidy their room or shut a door? LOL - so happy to be free :)
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Grow Your Own / Re: Green Manure vs no dig
« Last post by simbamara on Today at 15:32 »
I must confess I am a bit confused by the conflicting views on using Green Manure over winter !!
So to be clear , no green manure eg Mustard seeds for next years Legumes or Brassicas ?
Better cover the ground with black sheets /
Thanks
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Chatting on the Plot / Re: Super Summer!!
« Last post by JayG on Today at 15:30 »
Be interesting to see what the economics of if all look like when the subsidies stop for new installations, especially if the price goes up because the demand for them has fallen off a cliff... :unsure:
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Chatting on the Plot / Re: Smart Meters
« Last post by Aidy on Today at 15:13 »
We have one, It now enables me to justify screaming at the kids for the lecky they use when NOT in their room, like tv on while they eat down stairs, they now receive a fine so its making our energy bills cheaper!!
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My runner beans are trying to get next door !

I knew the wire cored washing line from the tree to the garage would do the trick ! ;)

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